Monday, November 26, 2012

Cameron asserts that borders are racist

Nigel Farage declares war on David Cameron over Ukip racism 'slur'
Nigel Farage has declared "war" on David Cameron over immigration policy after the the Prime Minister suggested some Ukip members may be racist.

The row over Ukip's stance on immigration blew up after a council took three foster children away from a couple on the grounds their support of the party was "racist".
Mr Cameron has previously said that Ukip members are mostly "closet racists" and Downing Street infuriated the party further by clarifying this weekend that not all Ukip members are racist.
Mr Farage today condemned the "slur", arguing it is not racist to believe in tighter border controls limiting immigration.
"[David Cameron] alone in British politics today continues to throw this slur at us that because we believe in not having our law set in Europe and controlling our borders that somehow that is racist. If he wants an electoral war with my party on his immigration open door policy he can have one," he told Sky News.
This is what it's come to, a so-called Conservative leader and prime minister deriding another politician as racist for wanting to control immigration.

Note, however, in the video at the Telegraph link, Nigel Farage only couches his opposition to more immigration in terms of Eastern European immigrants; if he were to say anything about wanting fewer Pakistanis/Muslims, it seems that even he feels he would be legitimately open to the charge of racism.

And now, in the land of the Magna Carta, foster children can be removed from their foster parents because those parents oppose immigration. The absurdity of the situation almost passes belief.

26 comments:

Porter said...

I'm not racist!

Wherever this cringe is found, western civilization is eventually not.

Rohan Swee said...

Note, however, in the video at the Telegraph link, Nigel Farage only couches his opposition to more immigration in terms of Eastern European immigrants; if he were to say anything about wanting fewer Pakistanis/Muslims, it seems that even he feels he would be legitimately open to the charge of racism.

That seems to be SOP. Even the BBC or Guardian will now permit ultra-delicate and equivocating allusions to the disaster that mass immigration has been to Britain, as long it's white immigrants and white immigrants only who are "named and shamed".

Kiwiguy said...

Why doesn't Farage ask Cameron if he thinks the Dalai Lama is r8cist? Or Benjamin Netanyahu for that matter.

He could also point out that controlling and reducing immigration is a concern of the majority in any country you care to name, developing or developed.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2007/10/04/world-publics-welcome-global-trade-but-not-immigration/

Rick Darby said...

The Brits are terrific at grumbling and complaining, which is permitted up to a point by the Multi-Culti police state as a safety valve. But there is apparently no longer room for any political compromise on population replacement in the U.K. Twenty years from now, the indigenous population will consist of grumbling, complaining dhimmis.

Although the Muslim/African Establishment in charge then may not be so tolerant of the griping.

Average Joe said...

Doesn't Cameron have Jewish ancestry?

IHTG said...
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IHTG said...

Average Joe: Well, Wiki says:
David Cameron's great-great grandfather Emile Levita, a German Jewish financier (and descendant of Renaissance scholar Elia Levita), who obtained British citizenship in 1871, was the director of the Chartered Bank of India, Australia and China which became Standard Chartered Bank in 1969.[14] His wife, Cameron's great-great grandmother, was a descendant of the wealthy Danish Jewish Rée family on her father's side.

Porter said...

Kiwiguy,
You know the answer. Wray-cyst is limited by race. It exclusively describes white conservatives/traditionalists/reactionaries/nationalists…or simply those-who-would-live. I suppose a practical synecdoche would be White man. Neither jew nor asian can be racist.

The verb form is a diktat to obsequious prostration. E.g.
Ethnix peremptorily ended the debate by commanding “Racist!” Thus sending Rich Lowry tumbling to his knees.

bdoran said...

What's wrong with saying I'm American or Briton and I'll defend it, you're NOT and mean it harm?

Kiwiguy said...

@ Dennis, Average Joe & IHTG,

The 'Conservative' leadership has been liberal on race for decades. This article discusses efforts by John Major to diversify the party and making it more "inclusive". For example, by selecting black candidates. Also, Major dismissed a warning by a grandson of Winston Churchill that Muslims would outnumber Christians in the UK in a matter of decades.

So the rot had set in well before Cameron.

http://osb.revues.org/804

In terms of jewish ancestry I'd note that the first jewish leader of a major UK political party was Michael Howard, who lead the Conservatives for the 2005 election. And he ran on reducing immigration and asylum.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-335193/Howard-We-need-controlled-immigration.html

Mattias Denzen said...

The fact that a small island in the North Atlantic with a history or Malthusian problems (even worse for Ireland), has semi-open immigration is completely insane. To put in the fact that you cannot be criticize this without being denounced as "evil" is truly madness.

Mattias Denzen said...

Have any of the people calling for everyone in the third world to move to Western Europe ever looked at it in on a map? It is one of the smallest and most densely populated areas in the world. And now, since the financial crisis of 2008, there are not any jobs anymore.

Martin B said...

"Kiwiguy said...

In terms of jewish ancestry I'd note that the first jewish leader of a major UK political party was Michael Howard, who lead the Conservatives for the 2005 election. And he ran on reducing immigration and asylum."

Actually, it was Benjamin Disraeli, who was the tory prime minister in 1868, and again from 1874-1880.

Captainchaos said...

"It exclusively describes white conservatives/traditionalists/reactionaries/nationalists…or simply those-who-would-live."

The desire of even highly intelligent and allegedly civilized Jews to see our race genetically destroyed via miscegenation is not so much evil and grotesque as it is sad and pathetic.

I mean, if you doubt me just read Norman Podhoretz's "seminal", "groundbreaking", nay "foundational" essay "My Negro Problem - And Ours". During much of the essay he paints negroes as being little better than obstreperous subhumans. So...what is his proposed solution to all this? You guessed it, White man, breed with them!

Now, just juxtapose this with Robert Crumb's comics regarding Jewish machinations. I take it you all know to what I refer and I therefore do not need to post a link. And I take it point taken.

Anonymous said...

I mean, if you doubt me just read Norman Podhoretz's "seminal", "groundbreaking", nay "foundational" essay "My Negro Problem - And Ours". During much of the essay he paints negroes as being little better than obstreperous subhumans. So...what is his proposed solution to all this? You guessed it, White man, breed with them!

This is why I love reading comments. You learn new things every day. I googled and found his essay here.

This appears to have been written in the 1960s when he was in his early thirties. Sure enough on the last page of his essay he calls for it.

I share this hope, but I cannot see how it will ever be realized unless color does in fact disappear: and that means not integration, it means assimilation, it means -let the brutal word come out- miscegenation.

I wonder how he and the other neocons would react if someone were to recommend a similar solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem.

Captainchaos said...

By popular demand:

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/rcjoa.html

Christopher said...

"I wonder how he and the other neocons would react if someone were to recommend a similar solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem."

To ask the question is to answer it.

W.LindsayWheeler said...

In the book, Origins of Socialism, the author points out that the term "conservative" in the Anglo-sphere means liberal. Benjamin Disraeli did much to deconstruct the term.

The term "conservative" was expressly coined in France at the time of the French Revolution to describe those that were against democracy (modern republicanism). Disraeli said "conservativism is for democracy".

Only a "Continental Conservative" is truly conservative and that means conserving the Old Order and race and nation.

Anonymous said...

What Podhoretz reveals ultimately is the horror which the intellectual left (is their any other kind?)feels over the unequal blessings of birth. There is none so judgmental as the non-judgmentalist.

eah said...

Such a pathetic, hopeless country...

Kiwiguy said...

***Actually, it was Benjamin Disraeli, who was the tory prime minister in 1868, and again from 1874-1880.***

@ Martin B,

Good catch. I was too lazy to double check the media reports I'd seen about Howard, but I should have remembered Disraeli.

Anonymous said...

This thread reminded me of the liberal PBS film from 1980, The Lathe of Heaven, where everyone on the planet were transformed into one race:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lathe_of_Heaven

Anonymous said...

Nice to have you back you always seem to bring realism to the table to an otherwise obsqure viewpoint being crammed into us.

Anonymous said...

Nice to have you back you always seem to bring realism to the table to an otherwise obsqure viewpoint being crammed into us.

Anonymous said...

Britain is in a death spiral; it might not pull out. This is no longer just a talking-point.

The locus of Anglo-Saxon civilization will move to the ex-colonies, to the extent that they can avoid the same disease.

Anon.

bobn said...

More news from "the place where Great Britain used to be": Via the Daily Mail:

Proportion of young Muslim men in youth jails rises ...as one in five offenders say they follow faith


The proportion of young Muslim men in youth jails in England and Wales rose by more than a quarter last year, figures showed today.

One in five males (21 per cent) in young offender institutions identified themselves as Muslim in 2011/12, compared with 13 per cent in 2009/10 and 16 per cent in 2010/11, the annual review of children and young people in custody showed.

The proportion of youth offenders in custody from black and minority ethnic communities also rose slightly to 42 per cent, from 39 per cent in 2010/11, according to the report by the chief inspector of prisons.



I understand that the chocolate ration has gone up from 30 grams to 25 grams, so it's not all bad news on Air Strip One!