Friday, January 6, 2012

Forgetting Human Nature

Several examples of various scientific and scholarly findings which I've come across today strike me as being statements of the obvious. Now, one realizes that most people probably think that their own opinions are merely statements of the obvious that everyone should agree upon, but let's take a look at a few of them to see whether we can make anything else out of it.

Men and women really do have large personality differences. (Courtesy of Malcolm Pollack. Here's the original study: The Distance Between Mars and Venus: Measuring Global Sex Differences in Personality.)
If men and women at times seem to be from different planets, it may be because there are large differences in their personalities, a new study suggests.

The results show that about 18 percent of women share similar personalities with men, and 18 percent of men share similar personalities with women. But the majority of women have personality traits that are quite distinct from those of men, and vice versa, the researchers say.

Men tend to be more dominant (forceful and aggressive) and emotionally stable, while women tend to be more sensitive, warm (attentive to others) and apprehensive, the study found.

"Psychologically, men and women are almost a different species," said study researcher Paul Irwing, of the University of Manchester, in the United Kingdom.
Bet you didn't see that one coming. Nevertheless, the article quotes a couple of "researchers", one of whom is a professor of a pseudo-discipline known as "women's studies", to the effect that the results are mistaken. As I understand it, the two who dispute the findings are committing a sort of sexual Lewontin's Fallacy by insisting that average differences aren't so great, i.e. that there's more variation within sexes than between.

Bryan Caplan on Daniel Kahneman: people who care less about money actually... earn less money! Caplan (and Kahneman) of course do not claim that that is the entire story behind income inequality, nor do they specify an effect size, but my (wild, speculative) guess is that the effect is very large.

Megan McArdle wonders what we really know about losing weight. One of the points she makes is about obviousness: everyone who is of normal weight thinks it's just obvious what one needs to do to be that way. But look at an example from an extended quote:
The Bridges will occasionally share a dessert, or eat an individual portion of Ben and Jerry's ice cream, so they know exactly how many calories they are ingesting.
The Bridges are an obese couple struggling to keep some weight off. That they would occasionally - or more than occasionally - eat ice cream makes about as much sense as an alcoholic having an occasional drink, or a lung cancer patient an occasional smoke. The "obvious" point here is weakness of will, or lack of future time orientation, or just not giving a sh*t, however you want to put it.

All of these are examples of human nature which we have either deliberately forgotten or conned into thinking were wrong. That the sexes have different personality traits, that some people have greater avidity for money and thus devote more of their lives to earning it, and that gluttony is a factor in being overweight are all things that everyone used to know. But the insistence that human beings are all the same has led to an abandonment of common sense. Of course, the insistence that we're the same must be seen in the light of Who? Whom?

It's not that the studies and articles above shouldn't have been done, but not too many years ago, most people probably would not have seen the need.

26 comments:

  1. About being fat, there is a significant genetic component to it. Some people metabolize food a lot differently than others. Plenty of low future-time orientation thugs eat mcdonalds 4 meals a day and are skinny as a rail

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  2. Listen to this, its a halarious example of a radio personality asking multiple women a basic fact about WWII, none of them know. He asks one guy, and he knows immediatley.

    Adam Carolla -- Women Don't Know Anything About Wars


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6t6Yfu3HEI&list=FLDBWy5uixE0P8UTqO9D-gCA&index=5&feature=plpp_video

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  3. Left-liberalism should probably renamed as SLD - statistical learning disorder, since left liberals are incapable of understanding the most basic statistical concepts.

    For example, if 95 percent of men are stronger than 95 percent of women, left liberals will argue we can't make the generalisation that men are stronger than women, since 5 percent of women may still be stronger than 5 percent of men.

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  4. I don't overeat because I'm not hungry, there's no willpower involved.

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  5. poultry inspectorJan 6, 2012 03:22 PM

    @commonwealth contrarian
    It's not a learning disorder, it's unwillingness to accept certain facts that disturb their worldview. Left-liberals can read statistics quite well when these statistics confirm their prejudices.

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  6. Does gluttony have that much to do with being overweight? If you gained just 1.5 pounds per year from "overeating" starting at 18, you will be 30 pounds overweight at 38 years old assuming you weren't overweight at the start. I think you gain a pound by eating 3500 calories over what you burn. Eating 15 calories a day more than you burn will make you gain 1.5 pounds a year. Is that gluttony? That's probably 2 chips.

    I used to shove HOho's, chips, ice cream, cookies etc in my mouth when I was a kid and I had no fat on me.

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  7. Interested topics, all three. The vast difference between men and women, I believe, is why they should have the special honors and privileges of marriage as a perk. It ain't easy (and yes I know gay couples fight).

    And the people I know who bragged that they are not interested in money & business came a cropper because of it. Indifference to something so important is usually due to ignorance and is nothing to brag about.

    Finally, I think the "genetic" component of obesity is probably more like the habits of sedentary behavior and reliance on comfort foods, learned from family. There is no proof of a either an obese gene, or a gay gene, for that matter.

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  8. Carter is a committed smoker, btw.

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  9. Of course, the insistence that we're the same must be seen in the light of Who? Whom?

    Let's think this through … If there were only some cohesive group that looked very European but privately felt themselves superior to Europeans … some group eager to live in European societies to thrive, but suspicious of being recognized as the Other (i.e. recognized by Europeans as they regard themselves) … some group known for their strict in-group-only morality, their cleverness and ability to get others to serve their interests, often unwittingly, using hard and soft power like financial clout and verbal skills … then the proliferation of this absurd idea that "we're all the same," this shibboleth that race doesn't exist, this obsessive fear of denying "man is a blank slate" that so characterizes the past few decades … might begin to make sense.

    But since there is no such group, we have to look for other explanations.

    Let's turn to that Upper West Side philosopher who cares deeply for the survival of traditional America (especially the American demographic pre-Ellis Island):

    "If whites, particularly whites in prominent positions, would start publicly speaking the truth about race and race differences, half of America's white-black problems would be solved. But the whites will never do this. It is as though they have a structure implanted within their cerebral cortex that makes it absolutely impossible for them to say that blacks differ substantively from whites in any way, no matter how grossly manifest such differences are. Whites would rather die, and let their country die, than state the simple truth that blacks are significantly less capable than whites, and that this is the reason why blacks are behind whites in every indicator of intellectual and economic achievement."

    Yeah, that's got to be it, something implanted in the cortex. That same cortex-implant probably also explains why no-one in the mainstream ever comments about how Jews "differ substantively." Not even commenters on that philosopher's website.

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  10. This is just the way today's academia is. Easily half of its output comes in two varieties: 1) water is wet, 2) "Making igloo in the Papua New Guinea: status and perspectives".

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  11. makes about as much sense as an alcoholic having an occasional drink, or a lung cancer patient an occasional smoke

    Hey, I am an alcoholic and I drink regularly. If I didn't, I'd probably be dead by now. The trick is to be able to do it in moderation. Look up "The Sinclair Method". Sounds like total bullshit, but seems to work. Saved my life for sure.

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  12. Modern academia is a living illustration of the fact that most of the low-hanging fruit has been picked, and needless to say, the vast majority of "academics" are not capable of solving the residual, really difficult problems.

    But they are capable of creating really difficult problems, so that's what they do.

    Anon.

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  13. Some foods (sugars, starches) have an addictive component. A lot of highly intelligent people throughout history suffered from addiction. It is not fair nor accurate to identify susceptibility to addiction with low intelligence. There are plenty of exceptions.

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  14. "the vast majority of "academics" are not capable of solving the residual, really difficult problems."

    And for those that are capable, it is really hard to find a forum for expressing one's views. The system resists it. There is some structural problem. We need something new.

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  15. Shock, horror! Fat person eats a cup of ice cream every once in a while. Call the morality police.

    I would have thought that reading GCBC and WWGF would have disabused you of any notions that fat people are fat becuase of gluttony and sloth. Of course they overconsume calories; that's axiomatic. The real question is why, and the answer appears to be endocrinological, not psychiatric. Needless to say, many normal people and so-called mental health professionals also believe that chronic fatigue syndrome is a fake made up diagnosis for mentally disturbed lazy people who can't cope with life. Obesity like CFS is a real illness, not a character flaw, unless you define moral rectitude as the ability to abide by a semi-starvation diet your entire life.

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  16. "The Bridges are an obese couple struggling to keep some weight off. That they would occasionally - or more than occasionally - eat ice cream makes about as much sense as an alcoholic having an occasional drink, or a lung cancer patient an occasional smoke. The "obvious" point here is weakness of will, or lack of future time orientation..."

    I don't understand this comment. The article (and the quote provided) makes it pretty clear that the Bridge couple (who are nearly 70) have 99th percentile levels of will-power:

    "Bridge supports her careful diet with an equally rigorous regimen of physical activity. She exercises from 100 to 120 minutes a day, six or seven days a week"

    This article is not a good example of the soundness of old-fashioned, folk wisdom; science really is at odds with a lot of "common sense" about weight.

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  17. Carol, congratulations on successfully (though unintentionally) confirming Adam Carolla's point.

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  18. Jason, what is the effect on weight of the trait conscientiousness? I'm genuinely curious.

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  19. If you read the article along with accompanying photos it's pretty clear that the Bridges are obsessed with food - and not in a good way - that their refrigerator is full of processed crap, they think lots of fruit is healthy, and that an easy ride on a recumbent bike or gardening qualifies as exercise. The male Bridges eats french toast with syrup for breakfast, the female does "water aerobics". Some of this isn't their fault, as they're doing what they believe is "healthy". As for willpower, I'm afraid that I just don't get the Ben & Jerry's and the french toast; if I were obese or threatened with it, I would just give up that crap forever, but the Bridges seem forever trying to figure out how they can cheat, what their max amount of food can be, how easy they can take it and still call it exercise. Then the article thinks it's weird how people can't keep the weight off, as if insisting on fritatas for lunch and ice cream for dessert was a normal activity. They're fixated on food.

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  20. Anonymous said...

    Listen to this, its a halarious example of a radio personality asking multiple women a basic fact about WWII, none of them know. He asks one guy, and he knows immediatley.

    Adam Carolla -- Women Don't Know Anything About Wars


    Adam Corolla -- Women Don't Know Anything about Wars


    Oh come on now. They know that it is, like, all fucked up and stuff, like, you know, it is totally bad. Who needs to know all the technical shit about the P57 Poontang and the Stumpa or whatever it was?

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  21. I'm afraid that I just don't get the Ben & Jerry's and the french toast;

    I noticed that diabetes site and magazines are obsessed with "safe" recipes for pastries, bread and waffles, with a special fetish for chocolate cake.

    Like you, I figure those sorts of foods should simply be ruled out and new tastes cultivated. Pointing that out to the readers invites some pretty butthurt emotional reactions.

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  22. The Bridges are an obese couple struggling to keep some weight off. That they would occasionally - or more than occasionally - eat ice cream makes about as much sense as an alcoholic having an occasional drink, or a lung cancer patient an occasional smoke. The "obvious" point here is weakness of will, or lack of future time orientation, or just not giving a sh*t, however you want to put it.

    I agree that the obese are weak, but this is not what proves it. Are they supposed to just eat toast? You might overdo it with any food that tastes good. The alcoholic or cigarette smoker can stop smoking or ingesting alcohol; you can't stop eating food.

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  23. Off topic:

    blogspot 86'd Svigor's blog, apparently.

    Oh, man. They did this to you, Dennis, and now Svig.

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  24. Heh, of course The quick and the dead is true to human nature ...

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  25. And Tim Tebow shows that White Males can still do magical things even in sports.

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