Amid rumblings of possible racial overtones to a Jan. 6 street brawl that left two men injured and one in a coma, a county group is urging calm and unity.It's too bad that those members of "the city's Hispanic community" aren't a little more concerned with stopping brutal gang violence emanating from said community. As it stands, the city's white community is getting a warning here: don't you dare even think about doing anything, just sit back and take it like you always do.
"This is not a brown-white issue," said Rusty Kennedy, executive director of OC Human Relations, which works to prevent racial violence and foster ethnic understanding and tolerance. "It's an issue of violent gangsters."
Three Hispanic men -- including two allegedly affiliated with the Varrio Chico criminal gang in San Clemente -- have been charged with attempted murder and assault for allegedly beating three white men, one of whom was fighting for his life late Tuesday after being bashed in the head with a brick.
The motives behind the attack remain unclear, but racially charged rumblings in some parts of the white community have already begun in comments posted on Patch and other media outlets. Some in the city's Hispanic community--many of whom are proud of their civic involvement and efforts to stop gang crime over the last few years--fear a possible backlash.
Interestingly, some comments at the original article reporting the attack display a working knowledge of the concept of anarcho-tyranny. To wit:
The cops are out busting tourist for letting their parking meters run out and harassing locals for posting garage sale signs while gangs beat up our children, illegals loiter rite aid with not an inkling of fear and jerks rob our banks. Good job guys!One might also say that the warning against a "backlash" illustrates the dictum that anti-racist means anti-white. Since the alleged concern in the article and among the Hispanic community is to "foster ethnic understanding", that is, anti-racism, but only whites are being both attacked and warned against a backlash, the whole setup is objectively anti-white.
To make my own position clear, I'm not calling for a backlash; what I'm calling for is for the police to do their job, and for the government to enforce the immigration laws. But I fear it's too late for San Clemente.
And by the way, San Clemente is a surfing mecca and an idyllic beach city. Or at least it was.
I find it distressing that Whites can't even get equal treatment from the law and public policy, when what we should have are policies that promote whiteness.
ReplyDeleteThe Anglo community is a kind of dysfunctional family locked in a mansion, beating their kids for minor infractions at the dinner table, while the Other is rampaging in the streets outside.
Only the "White Trash" will stand up and rescue us.
ReplyDeleteAnon.
Ah. I stayed at a youth hostel in San Clemente in the mid-80s. What an idyllic place it seemed then (see the movies Fast Times at Ridgemont High or Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure for the demographics then). I'm glad I saw California before it was ruined. Let it secede, receive no aid from the rest of the country, and when, in about 50 years, it has depopulated back to the desert that most of it is, we can reconquer it, if there are any of "we" left.
ReplyDeleteBetter have a knife on your person, at least. And I'd like to see Rusty get brick over the head. May knock some sense into him...
ReplyDelete"Only the "White Trash" will stand up and rescue us."
ReplyDeleteThis is true, woe to us that we've gotten to that point. But this is because our SWPL elite believes, I mean really believes that it's not actually white, its politics and cultural attitude mean that it has somehow transcended its own race, that by being on their side, they mystically participate in non-whiteness somehow (and get a pass for all the alleged crimes of the white race).
They also believe that whites have it coming, that they fundamentally deserve being attacked, even wiped out, but in the passive aggressive cowardice that marks our SWPL betters, they realize this by ensuring that whites are deprived of any opportunity to defend or assert themselves. They don't believe whites have a right to help themselves or ultimately to even exist. They want whites just to disappear.
"They don't believe whites have a right to help themselves or ultimately to even exist."
ReplyDeleteUtterly true. The intra-ethnic hatred among Whites is tremendous, it trumps everything else. It is an ongoing WW1.
Utterly true. The intra-ethnic hatred among Whites is tremendous, it trumps everything else. It is an ongoing WW1."
ReplyDeleteEveryday there is rifle fire between the Germans and Russians in my neighborhood. Sometimes mortars too...
@rightsaidfred Spot on
ReplyDeleteInterestingly, this is the first time I've seen the words "white community" together in a MSM pub. Perhaps whites have become a small enough share of the California population that they are just another "community". I wish Manga's formerly great state would hurry up and die so that we would have a gruesome but effective example around which to rally. Maybe that way we could, to paraphrase Jared Taylor 'preserve part of the United States'.
I'm living in the mid-atlantic region these days. There are many blacks here and already more than a few mestizo peasants, though implicit strategies such as high property taxes mostly keep them out of middleclass white towns. There is still a lot of America left to save.
-Jostein
Nixon lived in San clemente in the 70's. How bad could the place be? Back in the 70's I remember street gangs used to wear denim jackets with there gang name and logo on the back. Don't see that any more, but motorcycle gangs still wear it like that.
ReplyDeleteI'm Californian born and bred. You never saw Blacks here in OC, until about the last six years. They have been pushed out, southwards, from Compton and Watts and South Central, and even out of Long Beach (long ultra-Black in some areas) down into OC. Given crime rates and such, not a comforting thought. A local drugstore out in the open, major intersection, was robbed and the pharmacists pistol-whipped by two Black males, still at large (never caught).
ReplyDeleteAnarcho-Tyranny is really just the eternal war of the (ugly) combination of Calvinist New England Puritans and Mid-Atlantic Quakers (a toxic brew of self-selected "elect/saved" and utopian, pacifist nonsense) against the Aristos (not many left) and Hillbillies (of which I am one).
Puritans HATE HATE HATE Hillbillies, along with "ethnic" Catholics like Santorum and such. They tell you who they hate, just for existing, and mostly centered around their kids, family arrangements, husbands, and the like: Palin (they hate hate hate her, even though she's irrelevant), Santorum (likewise), Trump (aristo), Tebow (Mormon), and so on.
Their utopia would have no middle class, ordinary White people at all, only dirt-poor Mexicans and Blacks, with smattering of rich "select/saved/elite" technocrats administering the Colors of Benetton meets a Target Ad. Presumably with a dash of trans-gendered lunacy ala Chaz Bono and a few token non-White elites (cue Obama). The harassment of ordinary Whites and the blind eye to Mexicans and Blacks (and Asians) is a cue: it is inter-White struggles and really by the elites against the people that characterize this. That's why Michael Moore pleaded with Al Qaeda to attack Red States not Blue ones.
A relief no are Jews involved. Carry on, carry on...
Delete"WhiskeyJan 14, 2012 10:16 PM
DeleteAnarcho-Tyranny is really just the eternal war of the (ugly) combination of Calvinist New England Puritans and Mid-Atlantic Quakers (a toxic brew of self-selected "elect/saved" and utopian, pacifist nonsense) against the Aristos (not many left) and Hillbillies (of which I am one)."
Why is it that there is one ethno-religious group which always seems to escape your notice, Whiskey? A group which seems to also have materially contributed to the regime of political correctness and anarcho-tyranny, at least as much as have puritans and quakers - you know, the one that constitutes 10% of the US Senate, 33% of the US Supreme Court, and a very high percentage of both finance capital and the media? Why exactly is that, Hillbilly Boy?
"Palin (they hate hate hate her, even though she's irrelevant), Santorum (likewise), Trump (aristo), Tebow (Mormon), and so on."
Actually Tim Tebow is a baptist, not a mormon. But hey, mormon, baptist, whatever - those aren't distinctions I'd expect a scottish-irish hillbilly to be hip to.
I stand corrected. Baptist. Jews are less than 3% of the population. Most Jews are so deeply intermarried that they are not even Jewish anymore, by any real definition: only one parent a Jew, don't observe, deeply acculturated.
DeleteLast time I looked, Tom Hayden was not a Jew (Irish Catholic), nor Ralph Nader (Arab Christian), nor Chris Matthews (Irish Catholic), nor Brian Williams, nor Tom Brokaw, nor Walter Cronkite, nor Barack Obama, nor George W. Bush, nor Bill Clinton, nor the other Bush, nor Reagan, nor Carter, nor Nixon, nor Ford, or any President, ever.
You want a cheap and easy conspiracy theory, with cheap and easy villains. You lack the intellectual courage to see the eternal struggle among Whites for status, power, and control. When Jews DID control Hollywood: MGM, Warner Brothers, Paramount, etc., and ran comic books, America had vastly different attitudes. Louis B. Mayer would have never greenlit "the Help" nor would Captain America in comic books derided the Tea Party as Hillbilly Racists.
Jews basically don't matter -- they never have. Too small, too isolated, too prone in the US to intermarry and assimilate.
So the reason you consistently ignore Jews and focus on anything but, is that Jews basically don't matter -- they never have. Too small, too isolated,... being ...less than 3% of the population.
DeleteYet Jews have dominant control of your media, both Hollywood (one of your largest export sectors) and news information. Contrary to your claim that Jews "DID" control Hollywood they still DO. If the Vatican, or a foreign power like say Russia, controlled your media to the extent that Jews control it, any normal patriot would be outraged. But not you. Why Whiskey, why? For a supposed "Scotch-Irish" Catholic this makes extra nonsense.
You're obviously not a complete imbecile and would understand that monopoly power is not predicated on proportion of population, but dominant control of a market sector by a minority. So, again, why do you discount Jews purely on percentage proportion of population? I think you have an affinity that you are withholding. An affinity that is not shared by the majority of Catholics.
You saw how the Republicans bowed and scraped to this "Too small, too isolated" 3% population of Jews, Mangan himself posted on it. Now to what benefit would these Republicans hope to profit by bowing to, and making assurances to, a "Too small, too isolated" section of the voting public. Are these Republican leaders after a "cheap and easy conspiracy theory"? Do they have some conspiratorial notion that Jews have an inordinate power in US politics? Are these Republicans anti-semites for promising to bomb Iran should they be elected? Why would they grovel so publicly and make oaths to a foreign nation in Israel, represented by Jews in the USA, that they will bomb another foreign nation in Iran, given that the Jews are only 3% of your population?
You know the answers to these questions Whiskey, just like those Republican leaders know the answers to these questions. You pretend that "Jews basically don't matter" because you are a Jew aren't you Whiskey.
And if you're not a Jew Whiskey then it is you who lacks "intellectual courage". Cause it's very easy for you Whiskey to sit back on your bloated fat arse mouthing off against Whites as being conspiracy theorists, while they have to suffer the threat of prosecution, social sanctions and financial punishment for daring to threaten this weak, small, victimised 3% of Jews. Is the ADL a figment of my imagination? Is it just another "conspiracy theory" of mine?
You're a nothing but a running dog Whiskey and you know it.
I eagerly await the day for Jews to call out Sontag, Ignatiev, etc...
DeleteMichael Moore is a Midwestern Irish Catholic, not a "Puritan".
ReplyDeleteThere are no Puritans left. They've been outbred not just by non-whites but by other white groups.
The only Puritans left are among the Mormons in Utah and in parts of northern New England.
Pretty much ALL of American Culture is Puritan. Yes, no God left. But Gaia. What the heck is recycling, Green, and all that about? Moore is as much Puritan as anything else, he does not have the typical Irish view that everyone else but the Irish suck, in explicit detail. He does not have the Catholic guilt thing going on. God's not punishing him -- because for Moore he does not exist.
DeleteBut what DOES exist, is a select group of predestined "saved" White people who possess superior spirituality and (Quaker) deep-rooted pacifism. [Catholics are perfectly fine with wars.] A group of select, with rigid social control? Everyone outside wicked and damned? the cult of expertise, social control over others (for their salvation), and so on?. Moral panics, vast social schemes, emphasis on education? That's all deeply Puritan. Backwoods people never gave a damn about that stuff, neither did Catholics.
Moore's family did not come over on the Mayflower. But culturally, his attitudes, his belief about how the world works and what is right and wrong -- that's very Puritan. Look at Seattle or Portland, the tight-community, the belief in spiritual progress, the utopianism. The outright form may have changed (like Pagan Gods into Saints in Catholic Europe) but the core remains.
"WhiskeyJan 15, 2012 05:27 PM
DeletePretty much ALL of American Culture is Puritan."
Really, Whiskey? The south was settled by puritans? Country music? Puritan? Gangsta-Rap? Puritan? Stand-up comedy (a very scotch-irish influenced affair, no doubt)? Puritan?
You are not merely being disingenuous, Whiskey. You are a damned liar.
I'm aware of this claim, and I think it's wrong.
DeleteIt's a completely unscientific way of thinking.
It takes a complex, uncontrolled historical event or "experiment" with countless variables, and then asserts that one particular variable is dominant. It fails because the other variables aren't teased apart, the particular variable isn't convincingly shown to have been/be dominant, and it ignores counterexamples such as the Puritan descendants among the Mormons in Utah.
And the variable is not even clear. It's not explained whether it is a biological group, a doctrine (set of propositions), etc. The variable is vague and changes according to the whim of whoever is making the claim.
It is a sort of theological or magical argument where the variable, "Puritanism", is put forth as a vague, disembodied force.
http://www.jbcampbellextremismonline.com/5/post/2012/01/lets-fight.html
ReplyDelete"The intra-ethnic hatred among Whites is tremendous, it trumps everything else. It is an ongoing WW1."
ReplyDeleteIt is WW2 with SWPLs as the Nazis and proles as the Jews.
** Brutal Attack Spurs Worries of Racial Backlash: Amid rumblings of possible racial overtones to a Jan. 6 street brawl **
ReplyDeleteThey should make up their minds whether it was a brawl (something interactive) or a brutal attack (something one-sided).
** It's too bad that those members of "the city's Hispanic community" aren't a little more concerned with stopping brutal gang violence emanating from said community. **
They are concerned with feelings, not actions. If a Mexican brawler kills or maims a White person, it is no big deal, so long as it's done in a friendly way, without any racial animus. On the other hand, if White people start blaming non-white immigration for the violence, there is a name for that...
Imagine being a relative of one of the victims, and also having the "red pill" understanding of racial realities. And then listening to this narrative. I cant even begin to imagine the hate that would well up in such a person at that point.
ReplyDeleteThe Jewish media spent fifty years attacking the police whenever they tried to do anything to stop the ever-escalating levels of urban crime. They're responsible for 100,000s of preventable murders and millions of stabbings, shootings and rapes - not SWPLs or Anglos or inter-white ethnic conflict - Jews. Just one more country destroyed to add to the long, long list.
ReplyDeleteIn this article, a white father whose teenage daughter was beaten up by blacks on a Portland, Oregon, bus (or tram or something) is more worried about a backlash than about his own daughter's safety.
ReplyDelete"Police have made arrests. Karley escaped with just bumps and bruises. TriMet has promised a written apology and to improve security. But there's still something hanging out there. Buckland and I couldn't decide which was uglier: The video or the reaction to it. "People have taken a grain of sand," the landscaper and fishing guide said, "and tried to turn it into a 200-pound boulder."
Karley is white. Her attackers are black. For many people hiding under the hood of anonymity on talk radio and in online forums, that's all the evidence they needed to unload: Hate crime! Racist attack! Proof of "black hate" and "black racism"!"
http://blog.oregonlive.com/commuting/2012/01/max_beating_was_ugly_but_the_r.html
The article is by one Joseph Rose.
Exactly what kind of “backlash” are they afraid of; gangs of white youths roaming around beating up brown people? Hardly. What, Latinos, immigrants, and Democrats are really afraid of is white people organizing as such and openly declaring they are finished with brown racism and misbehavior and that they won’t tolerate being preyed on any more. God forbid those uppity white folk start expecting our immigration laws be enforced or that they benefit from the taxes that they disproportionately pay, or worse, pay fewer taxes to begin with. And if the cops don't want to protect the citzens, then how about armed locals? Next time there is a disturbance the parents and neighbors might want to bring along their mini-14s.
ReplyDeleteWhat scares them is Whites using the power they have doing things like shunning NAM to the maximum of the law allows and realizing that in Cali they re just another minority, getting a racial identity and thus demanding the same gravy.
DeleteThey also fear getting ignored or regarded as unreliable shills which is happening. This hits the wallet and the influence they peddle.
They also fear more White Flight. This has vastly hurt California already and without well off people to "extract" from the multi-cult beast starves.
In the deep back of their heads they also fear White gangs of Regulators (see Prayer of the Rollerboys for a movie example) and being held accountable in a collapse they accidentally (or on purpose I dunno) engineered and they fear a race war since if it goes down, they are dine for.
All they can do is double down and given the economy and the end of the extra 4 years of college brainwashing (by by college bubble) its not going to work much longer.
"a white father whose teenage daughter was beaten up by blacks on a Portland, Oregon, bus (or tram or something) is more worried about a backlash than about his own daughter's safety."
ReplyDeleteSimple folks can occasionally be tricked or brow-beaten by a journalist into making similar comments, like Carter Strange's parents who told the slick Matt Lauer that they "forgive" the attackers. Shortly after they said that this isn't something they actually meant.
But Karley's father appears to be sincere, like Amy Biehl's parents.
Is there a rightie analogue to people with that mentality?
It is interesting how long revisionism has been going on and how effective it has been ...
ReplyDeleteIt is clear that an Ethnic groups myths can be used against them if you understand them enough.
I live in San Clemente as a mother and teacher and this is terrifying!
ReplyDeleteWe just had another incident since the beating Jan.6th!
**Jan. 14th a group of Mexican gang members did a drive by on a residential street
In San Clemente and shot 2 young white males multiple times including
The head and torso! It's not even in the news! Unbelievable!
We need exposure and public awareness to stop this nightmare.
Check the sheriff blotter Jan. 14th 2012, and you will see the shooting in San Clemente
What can we do?
Thats the second brutal attack on white males by criminal Mexican gangs
This month in San Clemente, and we dont even have a warning or report from a local news channel or police department? Help! What's wrong with our officials?
You should start a blog to detail these incidents. The more people who speak out, the better.
ReplyDeleteA man named Itzcoatl Ocampo was just arrested in California for a string of murders. He is accused of stabbing several vagrants to death:
ReplyDeletehttp://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ca-police-found-homeless-killer-15364672
In light of this series of sadistic, vicious murders, let us all sincerely hope that there is no backlash against hispanics. That's what is really important.
"What's wrong with our officials?"
ReplyDeleteThe police have a kind of battered wife syndrome where they avoid anything that could lead to a media campaign against them.
The actual mechanism is that the ambitious ones who want promotion know the media are always looking for anti-white racial stories so they avoid doing anything that could damage their career. The ones who bow to media pressure the most are the ones who end up running the police departments.
It's been a 50-year filtering process.
The police in SoCal have given it to various powerless White people: Kelly Thomas, a homeless schizo, was beaten to death, by a group of police including one Hispanic officer. Another guy, a drunk White dude in Long Beach, was shot for holding a water hose, by police including one Hispanic officer. Still another, a retarded/schizo White woman, was given an elbow to the head on a bus while being videoed.
ReplyDeleteWhite people without power and connections have no La Raza, no LULAC, no Urban League, no NAACP, no Southern Christian Leadership Council, no CAIR, no Department of Justice, no Eric Holder, no Barack Obama, no Jessie Jackson, no Al Sharpton, and no Louis Farrakhan on their side. There are no threats of riots, no threats of violence, no threats of lawsuits, all combined, when police do this to ordinary, non-connected Whites.
Now, Whites have more median household income than Blacks ($5K) or Hispanics ($6K) according to the Pew Hispanic Trust, around $115K per household. You'd expect money would create power, but Whites are divided. I have a post up about Iztcoatl Ocampo, suffice it to say if he did not serve the interests of a group of Whites (rich, connected, Utopian, internationalist, Progressive, Puritan) he would not have been in the US. But he is the poster boy for the Dream Act. In the Marines, went to school at a local HS. [Ocampo was brought into the US illegally at age 1. His relatives claim he is mentally ill. The White woman getting the elbow in her face in LA County is mentally ill. She did not hunt down and kill homeless White guys, one a Vietnam Vet. A perfect example of the death of the California Dream, by the Dream Act.]
I understand the Biehls and the Portland father and the Stranges. Their religious belief, that all but "certain" Whites are wicked, they are the "good Whites" and non-Whites are their props to act out various Third World rescue fantasies of leadership and morality, forms their core. It is how they order themselves, know right from wrong, up from down, and so on. To reject that is to go on Huck Finn's journey down the Mississippi. So they explain it as "it just happened -- random act of chance" and embrace the killers/attackers, because it makes them "the good moral White people" instead of the wicked. Choose between their kids and "everything they've ever believed in?" They choose their beliefs.
I would add that white people have no CNN, CBS, or PBS. It is not an accident that whenever there is a revolution, the first thing the rebels do it grab all the radio and television stations. Before the Alt-Right can make an impact on the political landscape they need unfiltered access to the mass media (and I don’t mean Fox). Even one network falling into the hands of the heathens would shake the left wing to the core which is why they will fight to the death to keep us off the air.
DeleteRight. The other day some Anonymous -- I can't keep them all straight in my head -- huffily demanded to know what tactics I recommended, in response to my saying that the time for debate was over and the time for tactics has arrived.
DeleteMedia.
I can see nothing more important than pro-White capture of the media, including TV, the film industry, and advertising. (I deliberately exempt print; it's good for debating, but won't change anything.) A long uphill struggle? You bet. When was anything worthwhile not?
Rick Darby,
DeleteWe can also let the media know that we will mete out a special punishment for them when the shit hits the fan.
Jews basically don't matter -- they never have. Too small, too isolated, too prone in the US to intermarry and assimilate.
ReplyDeleteNever mind that this guy is a -2 sigma jew, a real mental midget whose down syndromic attempts at crypsis are at least good for a laugh. In the same way that it is useful to study a simple model organism to get a handle on human disease, so it is equaly profitable to decipher this joker's thought processes to make sense of his far more competent tribesmen's modus operandi.
Note the chutzpah here. It is not for nothing that chutzpah is a hebrew word, capturing the typically Jewish understanding that turning truth on its head can be a far more effective than conceding anything. Note also the palpable, obsessive fear that gentiles are waking up to reality; that they must not at any cost be allowed to run with the idea that things might've been better had Jewish interests not captured every lever of power. Note also the one chief concern that always guides the Jewish intellect whenever it has historically sought out disgruntled groups to "enlighten" and "edify": theirenemies (i.e. strong, self-sufficient European men and their women, with strong racial pride and therefore potential to become angry and skeptical of Jewish power) are your enemies too! (even when their enemies are ... you!) If it looks like Jews are piloting your plane into a mountain, that's an illusion! The plane was already set to auto-pilot and directed into the mountain by the real enemy! Jews just filled up the leadership positions of this plane innocently by virtue of their massive (but innocent!) giftedness! Here's proof: some of the flight attendants are Irish!
San clemente is the same its always been.
ReplyDeleteScum breeds scum.
I am glad i left the drug game and am completely sober. These dumb nuts just like to start beef with each other. If you are a respectful guy, you won't be getting jumped and put into comas.
I've lived here my whole life and i have never had a problem with any of VCSC or SCB. And i know members of both gangs from high school
You saw how the Republicans bowed and scraped to this "Too small, too isolated" 3% population of Jews, Mangan himself posted on it. Now to what benefit would these Republicans hope to profit by bowing to, and making assurances to, a "Too small, too isolated" section of the voting public. Are these Republican leaders after a "cheap and easy conspiracy theory"? Do they have some conspiratorial notion that Jews have an inordinate power in US politics? Are these Republicans anti-semites for promising to bomb Iran should they be elected? Why would they grovel so publicly and make oaths to a foreign nation in Israel, represented by Jews in the USA, that they will bomb another foreign nation in Iran, given that the Jews are only 3% of your population?
ReplyDeleteNot to mention about 80 percent of this small population will be voting for Obama--and the Republicans still genuflect to AIPAC. Listen to the Nixon tape with Billy Graham, you will hear their candid conversations about the "stranglehold" Jews have over the media--even in the early 70's. And this was back in the days when Disney was a wholesome, family company, there were no Israel first talk radio hosts (Medved, Prager et al) and commercials actually showed white people and not these absurd interracial characters.
Whiskey has covered the bases quite well. In the Tampa Bay area of Florida the impossible happened. A wealthy Hispanic doctor and his wife were brutally murdered at their home, a magnificent dwelling in a fortress community called Avila. People like Tony Dungy are neighbors.This murder was exceedingly rare and shocked this very wealthy group of people who paid a fortune for triple layers of security.
ReplyDeleteThe wealthy victims in this case were not whites per se but Hispanics who made one mistake: the lady ran her own jewelry business from her home and hired a Hispanic thug with a criminal record. She accused him (correctly) of stealing some of her property and he retaliated with a gun.He had a special pass to enter this impervious fortress with eight foot walls and multiple guards.
America will read Huff Post and other news outlets but most will not generalize adequately enough about the Hispanic crime problem. Millions of poor young men take but a year or two to check out the vast economic gap between themselves and whites. Clustered in cheap apartments with others of similar mind set, they will redirect their effort against those with "stuff." Clever whites will take note of Hispanic criminality but others mesmerized by PC lemming behavior will need a more direct slapping, something likely to happen with increasing frequency unless you are poorer than them.
"...combination of Calvinist New England Puritans and Mid-Atlantic Quakers (a toxic brew of self-selected "elect/saved" and utopian, pacifist nonsense) against the Aristos (not many left) and Hillbillies..."
ReplyDeleteWhiskey has been reading "www.occidentaldissent.com". His post is copy cat of O.D.'s style.
I am worried that this blog, like every other where whiskey posts, is being harmed by his modus operandi. He comes onto every thread, posts something, gets people to reply, ignores them, then moves on to some other mischief.
ReplyDeleteA lot of people familiar with whiskey just ignore his comments. The problem is each day new people see his comments and start to reply to whiskey, who of course will never respond. So the thread gets sidetracked by people trying legitimately to argue with a person who has no intention of debating. Instead, he will post another comment or wait until the next thread to start the process all over.
Could we at least enforce a rule like Vox Day that requires one to answer his critics before he posts something new? This goes a long way in reducing the problem of trolls. And if whiskey turns out to be as well informed as he thinks and can respond to specific critique, the blog will benefit from the lively discussion.
When I reply to Whiskey, it is not to reply to Whiskey. One may as well argue with a brick wall. He is a human spambot. If I reply to Whiskey, I am addressing those who might read, and actually believe him.
DeleteOT, but anyone interested in US politics must watch this 5 minute video of Ron Paul from 2002.
ReplyDeleteThis is from an actual speech he read into the Congressional record on April 24, 2002. It is amazing how accurate he was. Paul might not be the slickest candidate, but as Vox Day points out in his new column at WND:
The benefit of 10 years of hindsight since Paul’s predictions were made is that we can see how perspicacious the five candidates were concerning the coming problems of the future.
...
Neither Obama nor Romney appears to have had any notion of what was right around the corner, although Romney was able to capitalize on the financial bubbles. Gingrich and Santorum both contributed, in their small ways, to exacerbate the problem. Only Ron Paul both saw the problem and spoke out against it, for which he has, like Cassandra before the fall of Troy, reaped the reward of being ignored, disbelieved and even insulted.
"...combination of Calvinist New England Puritans and Mid-Atlantic Quakers (a toxic brew of self-selected "elect/saved"
ReplyDeleteIf the media campaigned against violent crime regardless of ethnicity then something could be done. Instead they
- censor anti-white crime
- try and glamorize the cultures they think drive it
- atack police who try to reduce it
- attack politicians who try to reduce it
- promote forced integration to drive the insane levels of crime and violence they know exists into white schools to harm white children
The media may not be the only cause but i think it's safe to say they are guilty on all five counts and are therefore at least partly responsible. So is the media dominated by Calvinists and Quakers?
"I am worried that this blog, like every other where whiskey posts, is being harmed by his modus operandi."
Talking about black men and Jewish women e.g. Tiger Wood's media sponsors dropping him when he had an affair with a Jewish heiress, works like a cross and garlic on Whiskey for some strange reason but unfortunately new readers would get confused.
DeleteTalking about black men and Jewish women e.g. Tiger Wood's media sponsors dropping him when he had an affair with a Jewish heiress, works like a cross and garlic on Whiskey for some strange reason but unfortunately new readers would get confused.
Why would the media be concerned about Tiger Woods having an affair with a Jewish woman? Surely they realize that Tiger Woods is only about 1/8th black and is about half Chinese and a bit Thai and a bit Amerindian? Surely the media is not that bigoted?
San clemente is the same its always been.
ReplyDeleteJust respect the gang members and you won't get shot. Ah yes, just like life in 1980s San Clemente. Jackass left the drug game too late apparently.
Martin B,
ReplyDeleteWhiskey says 3% of the population can't possibly control a society -- numbers like that are essentially irrelevant.
I have a question for you, Martin, and other Mangans' posters, that I'd like to ask, just to sharpen my own arguments, if you don't mind.
What percentage of the population of India was the British Raj when the Brits ruled?
What percentage of the population of central America were the Conquistadors when they conquered the Aztecs?
What percentage of a society can control the entire society? That's a good question, and probably depends on the nation/people/society in question. And as you pointed out with your examples, clearly small groups of people can control entire nations. A few further examples:
DeleteAs of 1974, ~6% of the Soviet Union's population belonged to the communist party (according to Wikipedia); Joseph Stalin represented about 0.0000007% of that population. As of 1945, about 10% of the population of Germany belonged to the nazi party, whereas Adolph Hitler constituted about 0.000001% of that population. The actual percentage that controlled those nations presumably lay somewhere between those two numbers.
I don't believe that jews control the world, let alone the United States. I don't believe in sinister cabals of bankers executing multi-generational conspiracies. I do believe that wealthy and powerful people have more power and influence than you or I, and that they use that power and influence to further their own interests. I believe that they often collude with one another to do so. And it seems obvious to me that some groups, and this certainly does apply to jews as a whole, do seem more inclined to use their power and influence to further certain perceived group interests.
Note, I say perceived. I don't think that alot of the things that elite jews push actually benefit most jews in the long run. And most jews are not members of the elite, although even ordinary, average jewish people, at least based on their support of PACs and interest-groups and on their voting patterns, do seem to support much of what that elite does. Open immigration to this country, for example, has vastly increased the power of arabs and muslims as a voting block. I don't think that that benefits jews, or Israel. Jews are famous for asking the question "Is it good for the jews?" Honestly, I don't think that they are that good at answering it.
The media aid and abet the general liberal doctrine dominating our society and indeed the West.They are a primary driver of what they believe is the normal meme. Ordinary people fall in line just as ordinary Russians followed the Bolshevik line.It becomes the norm. It takes astute thinkers to break the grip of such an attractive zeitgeist.Many, of course, prefer to bury their true beliefs.
ReplyDeleteWandrin is essentially right. The MSM do manipulate crime data. Fortunately, Huff Post and others print photos of the killers or at least provide their surnames, clearly indicating their ethnicity. Despite the trickery of Ron Unz, the truth is that Hispanic crime is rising and will continue that trend because whites, as Whiskey accurately stated, have much more wealth for the very reasons the MSM wish to conceal-higher IQ, motivation, and future time orientation(planning). Poor Hispanics drop out of school at a high clip, making them the very liability that perceptive critics like Derbyshire warned about. Florida spends over 5 billion on welfare annually as a bandaid for barely subsisting Hispanics.It is unsustainable to put it in pop culture lingo.This move toward dysgenics is plainly dumb.
Wandrin wonders re the religion of the liberal elite but Calvinists are rare these days. Secular heathans with good college educations are today's leaders.The fanaticism of many liberals-Rachel Maddow and Chris Mathers, etc. is Calvinist in rigidity and intensity but this species would decry the same features in Muslim extremists.True believers share a common set of traits once decribed vividly by Eric Hoffer. Quakers are rare these days but Christian liberals were easy prey for the Leftist propaganda of the seventies and eighties.Who wouldn't believe in equality if the basis is a thing called "soul?" The secular Left is surely the brains of the movement but Christian believers are easily lemmingized.
JSM,
ReplyDeleteRead the first few paragraphs of the following article, and then you'll understand why Whiskey should be completely ignored. In short, he lies, and he knows he's lying.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
JSM,
ReplyDeleteOn your point regarding the British and Spaniards…
One response I would anticipate is that the Europeans in those situations were able to impose control with small numbers through military force enabled by superior technology. And that the Scots-Irish of today enjoy no such technological advantage—militarily or otherwise—and thus must rely upon their meager one man one vote in a democracy. And given a mere 3% voting bloc, they are rendered a statistical irrelevancy. Thus, you’re doing the voting and you’re deciding the leaders. So what the hell are you moaning to us about?
This sounds perfectly reasonable to my ears. And it is, of course, perfect horseshit.
The weapons of tribal warfare are not limited to steel and lead. In fact, it is foolhardy to get messy when not required. Subduing your opponent without fighting is the supreme art of war. And today’s most effective weapons incapacitate the mind rather than the body. Those weapons are *Hollywood, the media, and academia—and we are practically disarmed.
Scots-Irish conversations are broadcast to the millions and subsequently their ethno-centric perspective becomes mainstream. Our conversations are witnessed by a precious tiny few. The ideas never enter the national bloodstream, and as a result what our forefathers took as conventional wisdom is now beyond the pale. What if the alt-right had 100 million attentive readers? Or publicly financed propaganda mills required for all 18 year olds to pursue white-collar employment? Or a massive entertainment complex which engineered practically every show—every drama, every comedy—toward a desired mindset? The answer is that our culture would be thriving and our countries would be ours again.
*Having control of large swaths of the judiciary, NGOs, and large finance in both the public and private spheres might also be considered noteworthy.
Yes, the Third World had started to overflow its banks, and the West was its sewer. -- Jean Raspail, "The Camp of the Saints"
ReplyDeleteAnd, just like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino, whites are expected to die to save the brown man!
ReplyDeleteLike hell. They can go first!
"OT, but anyone interested in US politics must watch this 5 minute video of Ron Paul from 2002."
ReplyDeleteThat's pretty amazing.
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"Whiskey says 3% of the population can't possibly control a society"
Colonial administrations are always controlled by small numbers.
- 1% controls the 3% below them
- who control the 9% below them
- who control the 27% below them
- who control the rest
The 1% at the top and 2+ of the 12% in the next two layers are all you need.
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"Surely the media is not that bigoted?"
I'm not saying it's true just that it works like Kryptonite.
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"I don't believe in sinister cabals of bankers executing multi-generational conspiracies."
It's no different to the mafia by which i mean it's literally identical - a collection of extremely closely related families maintaining a monopoly over a particular economic niche.
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"Wandrin wonders re the religion of the liberal elite"
Whiskey wonders. I have no doubt.
Colonial administrations are always controlled by small numbers.
ReplyDelete- 1% controls the 3% below them
- who control the 9% below them
- who control the 27% below them
- who control the rest
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In fact, it is easier to understand :
- how a Jewish minority keeps in control of the West,
- and how an English minority kept control of India,
than :
- how Brezhnev and his pals remained in control of the Soviet Union,
- or how the North-Korean dictatorship remains in power.
In the early Soviet Union, the Jewish ethnicity added coherence to the communist movement and its opposition to the former ruling class. In the absence of strong ethnic differences, you would expect the class struggle to be softer, especially among White people, who tend to be more egalitarian. In the later Soviet Union, the communist rulers did not see themselves as very different from common people, and they had no reason to fanatically maintain a system that did not work well.
Today in the West, what we call "the left" would not even exist as a coherent force without the Jews. They are the ethnic cement that holds together what is in reality a highly disparate collection of pressure groups. But because their ethnic networking is partially hidden, there is little resistance from White people as an ethnic group.
Jewish influence works in concentric circles, like nesting Russian dolls. Many Western countries are dominated by small oligarchies, and Jewish activists are influential within those small oligarchies. They are influential within leftist organizations, and those leftist organizations have subverted society. Most of the subversion work is done for Jews by White people. The solution is to create pro-White explicitly non-Jewish organizations, especially in the media, in order to defend our ethnic interests.
I am Hispanic , born and raised in our beautiful san clemente and these people make everyone else look bad...unfortunately what they did can't b forgotten. I'm still in shock ..
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ReplyDeleteA Scottish man has been charged with racially abusing American midfielder Maurice Edu on Twitter.
And I bet you didn't even know that was a crime. Friendly reminder: Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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ReplyDeleteTuberculosis which appears to be totally resistant to antibiotic treatment has been reported for the first time by Indian doctors.
And:
The 1970 census recorded 51,000 foreign born from India in the United States. By 2006, the number of Indian immigrants had grown nearly 30-fold to 1.5 million, making them the fourth largest immigrant group in the United States
Great. I travel there soon.
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"The revisionists never explain why the pro-war plotting succeeded but the anti-war plotting failed." --James Burnham (Suicide of the West, p. 256)
ReplyDeleteHere's the thing about blaming it all on "The Jews:" can you explain what the other 97% of the population of the USA was doing that allowed "The Jews" to allegedly take over the media, high finance, political lobbying, and et cetera? Was the white majority sitting back on the porch and drinking mint juleps while "The Jews" made off with the country?
Seriously. Let us not forget that up until the mid-20th century, people whom today we would call "race realists" represented the worldview of many if not the majority of Americans. Why then didn't they form their own film media to compete with Hollywood? Similarly, why did they fail to organize their own versions of the ACLU, ADL, NAACP, etc., etc., etc?
White non-Jews held control of most elected offices, ran the major industries (Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller), and so forth. And let us also not forget that it was perfectly legal to put up the "Restricted" sign to keep "The Jews" out of the country club. Why, with all this very real power, did the white majority fail to organize for its own ethnic interests?
This is a real question, and I would like to see a real answer.
@Californian
ReplyDelete"This is a real question, and I would like to see a real answer."
The more inbred a population group is the more collective they are and the more they are in a state of permanent war with out-groups. Jews enhance this effect culturally with induced fear and paranoia: "the whole world dances in the blood of the Jews."
The more outbred a population is e.g. NW Euros, the more individualistic they are and the more they have a peace / war switch.
White people can do what Jews do but they need to have their "war" head on e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
Jews as a highly inbred group living as a minority are permanently and instinctively in OSS mode.
So when white people without their war head on are competing as a group with Jews as a group they're not - they're either competing as individuals or they're not competing at all because they don't even realise there's a competition going on. It's like a game of football where one team is playing as a team while the other is playing as a group of individuals.
A walkover.
White people can only compete with Jews when they have their war-head on and compete as a group.
Californian: " Here's the thing about blaming it all on "The Jews:" can you explain what the other 97% of the population of the USA was doing "
ReplyDeleteLet's say it was not the Jews. Let's say that the Jews are not overrepresented at all in the media and in anti-White activism... Then, it must still be explained how immigration was imposed onto a nation that was overwhelmingly opposed to being race-replaced. In fact, without the Jews, it becomes harder to explain what happened. But maybe your theory is that most White people secretely craved to be race-replaced?
I read this on VDare.com, written by Peter Brimelow :
“Although immigration is not beneficial in aggregate to Americans, it is beneficial to people who run factories and farms and things like that. They like it, and so they lobby for it. And, in a common phenomenon in political science, when you have a small organized group that benefits a lot from something, it can overwhelm the disorganized majority that is disadvantaged from it only slightly.”
The lobbying may have come from the Jews, or it may have come from labor intensive industries. In both cases, it can be argued that there was a small organized group intent on getting something very detrimental to the disorganized majority. Maybe you would rather think that it was big business, and not the Jews. But big business represents less than 0.01% of the population.
Personally, I think that big business had very little to do with the immigration disaster.
Question: If, as claimed, "The Jews" are so powerful that they can make the policies for a great nation, then what point is there in resisting?
ReplyDeleteAnd a corollary: if "The Jews" are so powerful, then would it not make sense to cut a deal with them for mutual support? Perhaps the Christian Zionists have a point!
(It strikes me that blaming it all on "The Jews" is a self-defeating strategy since it attributes to them such superhuman policies that, pace the Borg, "resistance is futile.")
But all this still does not answer my question: why did the pro-White plotting fail back in the mid-20th century? There were large numbers of white people who were organized and fighting: Citizen's Councils, the George Wallace movement, the anti-busing activists, and so forth. Again, there were considerable numbers of politicians and media, especially in the South, who supported them. The contemporary mainstream conservative movement (under Buckley) provided considerable ideological cover. Heck, even the incipient libertarian movement was opposed to busing and affirmative action.
Now, rather than blaming the continuing crisis on "The Jews," why don't we analyze why the pro-White movement failed. Did it lack for leadership, or money, or a political line which would have mobilized the majority of Americans? Were their tactics wrong? Were the countervailing forces just too strong (remember, the US federal government, i.e., the Establishment, was on the side of the civil rights revolution)?
The thing is, what is needed is a rational analysis so a winning strategy can be developed.
Californian
ReplyDelete"If, as claimed, "The Jews" are so powerful that they can make the policies for a great nation, then what point is there in resisting?"
Nobody claimed that. They're only as powerful as they are invisible. As soon as they're visible, poof.
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"But all this still does not answer my question: why did the pro-White plotting fail back in the mid-20th century?"
Here's a paper on how Jews from the 1880s onwards organised as a group to betray and dispossess White Americans.
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf
Maybe the answer is in there?
OK, once again...
ReplyDeleteHere's a paper on how Jews from the 1880s onwards organised as a group to betray and dispossess White Americans.
Again, you are not answering the question: why did the pro-white organizations fail?
Second, if "The Jews" (3% of the populace) could organize so effectively a century ago, why then are race realists failing to organize today?
e.g., why are the followers of Dr. MacDonald not organizing their own version of the ACLU, NAACP, or whatever?
Nobody claimed that. They're only as powerful as they are invisible. As soon as they're visible, poof.
What, then, do you propose? Everyone stands up, says: "Oh, it's 'The Jews'," and...what happens?
Third worlders stop mass migrating into Europe-North America?
The EOC, Title 8, affirmative action, Al Sharpton's organization, and every other race hustle racket declare they will dissolve themselves?
The American underclass starts obeying the law, studying hard in school, and getting married instead of mass producing illegitimate children?
Tenured Marxists and radical feminists resign their professorships?
Hollywood produces a 3-D version of "Birth of a Nation?"
The thing is, I have seen the collapse of Western civilization up close (in southern Africa) and it is not pleasant. And I see the same things which happened in SA in motion in America today. But what is so exasperating is the failure of anyone in the West to come up with a strategy to counter this collapse that works in the real world.
Californian: " Again, you are not answering the question: why did the pro-white organizations fail? "
ReplyDeleteBecause when Jewish anti-White activism is stopped at the door, it comes back through the windows!
I have a few questions for you too. What's wrong with protesting against the control of the media and other institutions by anti-White Jews? Why should we accept the present situation? If the Jews don't want us to criticize their monopoly on the media, why not give up their monopoly in the first place? How can you blame us both for failing against the Jews, and for naming the Jews? How can we effectively resist the Jews without naming them?
Californian: "Everyone stands up, says: "Oh, it's 'The Jews'," and...what happens? Third worlders stop mass migrating into Europe-North America? "
The basic answer is yes. If everyone knew about them, the Jews couldn't remain in control of politics, the media, and so on. Once the Jews were no longer in control, people would no longer be afraid to talk publicly against race-replacement, and the appropriate, common-sense measures would soon be taken.
Of course, not every White man can be made to understand the connection between Jewish domination of society and the race-replacement crisis. But when a sizable proportion of White people understand the problem, it will help a lot. It will make them impervious to Jewish propaganda and help them get ethnically organized. It will also help them take direct action against the Jewish domination of some institutions. If there is an open clash between Jews and Whites, the Jews will lose.
Wandrin: "They're only as powerful as they are invisible. As soon as they're visible, poof."
That's why we have a soft dictatorship instead of a full-fledged dictatorship where dissidents are thrown into gulags. Jewish power depends on the collaboration of White people who don't understand who they are working for.
Ha, ha!---here's an interesting thought-experiment to consider...
ReplyDeleteSuppose a certain genetic pattern suddenly began coding for bright purple skin as well as everything else it currently determines. Methinks there might be rapid social and political change in many Western countries...
But what is so exasperating is the failure of anyone in the West to come up with a strategy to counter this collapse that works in the real world. - Californian
ReplyDeleteI've been similarly exasperated, but I don't agree completely. I think people in the West may have come up with several strategies, and that some of the would work. What have haven't developed is consensus.
The basic strategy is:
1. Come up with a sociopolitical "finished product" that provides what you want (reduction in street crime, acceptable tax levels, and freedom of expression would be my top suggestions).
2. Engineer it, i.e. devise the sociopolitical rules.
3. Tell two friends. Not just any friends, but they kind who will tell two friends each (but not just any friends).
(Step 1 is easy. I am working on Step 2. Step 3 is hard since I haven't found two such friends, probably since what I have come up with in previous Step 2s is verbiage of Moldbuggian proportions.)
Anyway, question is:
How willing is anyone you know to listen to reforms that "aren't going to happen"? (See, the abolitionists didn't have this problem. Back when the abolition of slavery was an impossible dream that couldn't come true in a million years, the abolitionists were motivated by God-given duty. Not much sense arguing with God.)
To the degree that alt-rightists tune out everything that (can be easily dismissed by saying) "ain't gonna happen", nothing is going to happen. People ask "what do alt-rightists even stand for?" and that, I promise you, could be changed.
Californian
ReplyDelete"OK, once again..."
Bear in mind i don't think you're asking in good faith.
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"Again, you are not answering the question: why did the pro-white organizations fail?"
You're ignoring the answer. Relative cohesion.
Jews as a group have been inbreeding for 3000 years. This has led to extreme in-group cohesion and extreme out-group hostility. What this means is 95% of Jews are instinctively united around "is it good for the Jews?"
Only a tiny fraction of white people think that way
Most White people can't even comprehend the way Jews are because most white people are very outbred compared to the human average. Other ethnic groups (and some white groups) see Jews much more clearly because they are less outbred.
White people can only compete with Jews when they have a similar level of cohesion as a group.
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"What, then, do you propose? Everyone stands up, says: "Oh, it's 'The Jews'," and...what happens?"
White people start to compete as a cohesive group. Then we win.
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Practically speaking the first neccessary step is a culture of critique which relentlessly attacks their (or if you prefer more generally left-liberal) moral double-standards. The rest should naturally flow from that.
One thing which bugs me about the "Blame it all on The Jews" school is that it comes off as conspiracy theory: a small group -- The Conspiracy" -- with seemingly super-human powers is running the show; but all we have to do to stop them is have the inner illumination that "they" are the problem and then "they" will go away.
ReplyDeleteBut even if one pushed a magic button and this happened, how would you deal with the radical Catholic theologians and the sanctuary movement; or Protestant organizations which are mass importing third worlders into the American heartland; or agnostic DWLs and their ideological idee fixes which border on religious fanaticism?
What's wrong with protesting against the control of the media and other institutions by anti-White Jews?
Well, then, are you going to do this? Aside from posting on the internet, what are you doing on this front? Picketing Hollywood studios controlled by "The Jews?"
How can we effectively resist the Jews without naming them?
Well, again, what are you doing on this front? Can you post some photos of yourself on a college campus naming "The Jews" who use classrooms for cultural marxist agitprop?
If everyone knew about them, the Jews couldn't remain in control of politics, the media, and so on.
Assuming your premise is correct, why would your conclusion follow? After all, wouldn't "The Jews" retain the support of minorities, DWLs, illegal immigrants, and other groups claimed to be their clients?
Once the Jews were no longer in control, people would no longer be afraid to talk publicly against race-replacement, and the appropriate, common-sense measures would soon be taken.
Sort of like in Sweden or Norway, where there are practically no Jews...
Most White people can't even comprehend the way Jews are because most white people are very outbred compared to the human average. Other ethnic groups (and some white groups) see Jews much more clearly because they are less outbred.
ReplyDeleteWhat you are saying is that Jews have a healthy respect for their own interests. Now, I am going to put aside the fact that some of the most fanatic anti-Israeli activists are Jewish (e.g., Noam Chomsky). Let's assume you are correct. We might also observe that virtually every other group on this planet has the same healthy respect for their own interests: blacks, Muslims, Chinese, whomever.
Even if you pushed that magic button and "The Jews" went away, that would not change a thing as long as white people still maintained their suicidal ideology of modern liberalism. The thing is -- and it is here where I am willing to concede you have a point -- white people have lost their group cohesion. This was not so until the mid-20th century. Look up the origin of the quote "Blood is thicker than water" for an example of white group cohesion.
Bashing Jews (or anyone else) will not solve the dilemma of loss of white group cohesion. You'd need to create some sort of revolution in consciousness to do that. And let me throw that question on the table.
"What you are saying is that Jews have a healthy respect for their own interests."
ReplyDeleteNo i'm not.
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"Now, I am going to put aside the fact that some of the most fanatic anti-Israeli activists are Jewish (e.g., Noam Chomsky)."
yawn.
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"We might also observe that virtually every other group on this planet has the same healthy respect for their own interests: blacks, Muslims, Chinese, whomever."
As i said, White people are unusually outbred. Jews are exceptionally inbred. Most are in the middle.
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"Bashing Jews (or anyone else) will not solve the dilemma of loss of white group cohesion."
Why? Jews constantly use the idea of the threat from non-Jews - "the whole world dances in the blood of the Jews" - as a way to reinforce their group cohesion.
There are three main engines driving white genocide
- bankster money
- academic philosophical underpinnings
- media manipulation
politics is simply the end result of those three.
The aim should be to relentlessly attack those three. Tactically speaking it's generally better to attack the cause generically i.e. left-liberals, globalists etc but if in the context of doing that Jews try and promote the suicide meme then it's reasonable to point out active Jewish involvement in every step of that "suicide."
Californian: "One thing which bugs me about the "Blame it all on The Jews" school is that it comes off as conspiracy theory
ReplyDeleteI think you come off as a Jew. The real question is not why blame the Jews but why should White people accept the Jewish control of the media. Even if Jews were not anti-White, their domination of the media would still be unfair to White people.
I think the Jews couldn't do it without the collaboration of a White minority. I'm not saying it's only the Jews. But they are the ring-leaders. You seem to suggest that Jewish control of the media doesn't have any important consequence on White society. It means that you are not a serious commenter at all!
Me: "What's wrong with protesting against the control of the media and other institutions by anti-White Jews?"
Californian: "Well, then, are you going to do this? Aside from posting on the internet, what are you doing on this front? Picketing Hollywood studios controlled by "The Jews?"
What I'm doing myself is a different question. You didn't say what's wrong with protesting against the control of the media by anti-White Jews. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
"Sort of like in Sweden or Norway, where there are practically no Jews..."
It seems there is a very active Jewish population in Sweden and Norway. The Swedish media are dominated by Jews. Oslo has both a Holocaust center and a Jewish museum. Their staff is certainly paid by the Norwegians to do anti-White propaganda. Norway's parliament had a Jewish president named Benkow (=Benkowitz) from 1985 until 1993. He was a specialist of "human rights" and "antisemitism".
I don't know Sweden and Norway, but until WW2, I'm sure their governments took pride in the Nordic race. Things began to change about two decades after the USA won the war against Germany. In France, after the war, the Jews started teaching again in the universities while many right-wing intellectuals were excluded and the left took control of the newspapers. Something similar probably happened in Northern Europe.
Because Sweden and Norway are only small countries, they are not satisfied with having only a local, national intellectual life. So they all speak English, and they cultivate relations with the USA. For example, wikipedia says that Gunnar Myrdal, the famous Swedish anti-White activist (1898-1987), was a Rockefeller Fellow as a student, and was later employed by the Carnegie Corporation, and after the war, by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe. So, his career was probably made possible by Jewish American allies. That is just one example.
It is also claimed that there are few Jews in the state of Iowa. But that doesn't prevent Iowa to be under Jewish influence, if only indirectly. In any case, even if Jews played no role at all in Sweden and Norway, it's still a fact that the mass media in the United States are anti-White and under Jewish control. That is not right.
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Personally, I live in Brittany, where there is no independent media, where everything gets decided in Paris, and where most people don't complain about the lack of democracy. I have always said that what was needed before anything else was a Breton national TV station, made by Breton people for Breton people. I was never afraid to protest against the control of Brittany's mass media by a vulgar, lying, anti-Breton French clique. Then, a few years ago, thanks to the internet, I progressively realized that the French media and the French government were under Jewish control. Well, if I used to blame the French, why not the Jews? Of course, it is safe to bash the French, but much more dangerous to criticize the Jews. That is all the more evidence of Jewish control. It is probably the same in Scandinavia: safe to bash the Whites, but not the Jews.
Now we know where Armor's screen name comes from: he's from Armorica (Brittany).
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One thing which bugs me about the "Blame it all on The Jews" school is that it comes off as conspiracy theory"
ReplyDeleteYou say it like that's a bad thing.
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The only reason that "conspiracy theorist" is a pejorative is because the media (in large part Jewish) has smeared as insane or stupid, anyone who acknowledges the fact that collusion among people with similar interests, against those who do not share their interests, is a fact of life.
Crime-scene detectives, while looking for possible accessories when someone gets murdered, are, in fact, conspiracy theorists. Are they crazy? No.
It's only by media's deliberate conflating people who really are mentally insane (they pound the table that politicians are really Lizard People from another planet, for example) with cool-headed pattern-noticers that have observed that those up to no good tend to keep their plans quiet -- and ask, what might that nefarious plan be? -- that "conspiracy theorists" have been given a bad rep.
Jews do, in fact, get together and discuss how to best advance their interests. And in those instances (quite common, at that) where their interests conflict with their neighbors', because they are intelligent, they know when to keep mouth shut.
Conspiracy theorists are not crazy to ask, what, if any, self-serving plans might be made at synogogue, for example, where non-Jews are not welcome?
Ha, ha! As near as I can tell, the rules in our society are that there are good "conspiracy theories" and bad "conspiracy theories."
ReplyDeleteThe good ones are the ones promoted by much or most of the MSM, and are not considered "conspiracy theories."
The bad ones are the ones not promoted by a substantial portion of the MSM, and are always ridiculed as "conspiracy theories."
These categorical definitions have absolutely no connection to their inherent plausibility, the weight of evidence behind them, or even the quality and credibility of their advocates. If the MSM changed its position on something, bad would become good very quickly, perhaps in just a few weeks.
The whole situation is a little like a few decades back when the head of the Mormon Church announced he'd had a conversation with G-d, and He had told him He had changed his mind, and blacks could become Mormons after all. So that's exactly what the Mormons did.
The Jews seem to believe in a unmotivated, gratuitous, unexplainable world-wide conspiracy to get them. It is their explanation of things that sounds crazy and paranoid.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, it works like this :
3. Jews complain about antisemitism, because:
2. Non-Jews complain about Jews, because:
1. Jews control the media, promote race-replacement, oppose our interests, and so on.
But the Jewish theory is that #1 isn't true, or is irrelevant for some reason.
In fact, criticism of the Jews usually boils down to criticism of Jewish actions. By contrast, Jewish activists try to encourage White people's feelings of guilt about antisemitism, racism, intolerance, and so on. They will tell us that "we white people, have been unfair to the brown man (and to the Jews)". It is unfortunate that we cannot do the same: make Jews feel all sorry and tearful for having ruined our lives!
On the one hand, we have White people who observe patterns, gather statistics, try to make sense of things. On the other hand, we have Jewish mind-readers who say it's all about hate: some White people, as well as Arabs, have a constitutional weakness that makes them naturally crazy, paranoid, and antisemitic. I think it is difficult to conceive of a more moronic theory.
What a surprise, an ardent antisemite turns out to be a frustrated provincial who's probably never met a Jew in his life. (though to be fair, there's the other type of ardent antisemite who is inevitably discovered to have distant Jewish ancestry)
ReplyDeleteArmor, the Jews in your country are mostly innocent brown people from North Africa. Everything they know, was taught to them by the descendants of the bloodthirsty mob of 1789.
"who's probably never met a Jew in his life"
ReplyDeletebut I've seen a lot of them on TV !