James Edwards has posted a video, "American Juggalo", which he terms an instance of "decadence so advanced that one can only conclude and hope that we are living in a terminal stage of Western civilization."
After watching this video, one can only agree. Juggalos are hardcore fans of Insane Clown Posse, a rap group that appears to be comprised, as far as I can tell, of white men - or should I say "white" "men", because the little music that I've been able to stand to listen to sounds no different than the usual black rap. According to the Wiki page, ICP has made a small fortune with their "music".
The video on the Juggalos shows us a motley, highly unappealing collection of the most idiotic, most pierced morons that one could imagine. None of them seem to be able to use any other adjective but f**kin' or m*****f**kin', nor to say anything that makes much sense. All of them appear to be on massive quantities of drugs and/or alcohol. (One scene shows a bunch of them sniffing whipped cream propellant. (I forget what that's called.)) Virtually all them are fat and don't mind displaying their mounds of flesh. One of the most repellant aspects of the Juggalos is the way they have themselves convinced that they comprise some sort of brotherhood, that they receive a form of acceptance from each other that "normal" society has somehow denied them, when in reality, if push came to shove, they look like they'd be running for the hills to save their sorry asses.
In short, they appear to be among the most worthless human beings on the planet. Unfortunately, almost all of them are white.
If these clowns represent anything close to the future of the white race, we're doomed.
The apex of that whole culture is a graffito I saw recently: "JUGALLOE".
ReplyDeleteIf you can spell "juggalo", you don't qualify.
Fuckin magnets, Dennis, how do they work?
ReplyDeleteHonestly, it's only incrementally worse than Heavy Metal Parking Lot from 1986
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They're almost qualified to be delegates at a Liberal Democrat convention.
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ReplyDeletegoddamnit khawz!! Rainbows!!
ReplyDeleteIt could just be kids going through a "phase" that they eventually grow out of.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe you're not latching on to the first real comment in the vid: "This is where we can get fucked up and not have to WORRY about it!"
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as an old /b/tard, Juggalos have been mocked by even Anonymous and various 4chan types for many, many years now. It's almost old-hat. And their whiteness has also been noted, although I would associate it with more purely midwestern fail than anything "white" if you need a slight relief on that front.
ReplyDeleteMangan, you rock, and If I can somehow say this without offense, you're sort of late to the party in noting this. Since we're both Senglerian-style pessimists regarding this sort of thing, if you the REAL future of the white race and western civilization, look up one "Christian Weston Chandler." (www.sonichu.com if you need a link to information about him.) He's far more in tune with the typical white youth of today than these Juagglos are, ironically.
I made a spelling error in my above comment. Spenglerian-style pessimists. Apologies for that.
ReplyDeleteYou committed a typo because of personal and civilizational decline. j/k.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Chandler looks more like decadence as I knew it as an impressionable young hipster-dec in the early '00s. A suitable cure is the site "Look at This Fucking Hipster", though personally I converted a few years before seeing it.
At least, this is the degeneration-form of cog-elite kids - and thus, very much the more important form. The rap-idolatry is more for Whites of middling IQ or less. As a hipster kid I was mildly proud of having once met a younger Black dude on the street and taken him on a long bike ride, and once chilling with a Black vagrant, though at least I didn't go around bragging about it like a megaSWPL (for which I thank the divine cosmos). But there was really not much worship of Black culture, save occasionally. In fact there was twice as much Klimt and Schiele worship as Black worship. Being introduced to Jugendstil and Mitteleuropa was one of the good parts of this subculture, as was studying them and Nietzsche and Kierkegaard and Heraclitus for many hours on psychedelics. Of course both painters have many decadent works, but even then I had good instincts about art (and /only/ art), and stuck to the likes of 'Agony' and 'Music II'.
Of course we were all far-leftists, but we didn't talk or think about it very much. We didn't care all that much except for the American kulturcampf, shocking the bourgeoisie and all that, but even this was partly in an ironic self-conscious mode and partly not.
I could tell many humiliating stories of my wild behavior in those days, but of course I won't. Use your imagination. Fortunately I had the latent ability to observe and think.
Required reading for ICP:
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Cracks me up every time.
Hmmm, I see LAT Fn Hipster is less cutting now than it was when I looked at it a couple years back. The pictures they post now have a certain very mild appeal, whereas they used to mostly have stuff that was more severely pathetic and depressing.
ReplyDeleteOur host is having an existential crisis due to his discovery of Juggalos. It's normal, and we've all went through it. This will pass.
ReplyDeleteDon't look up Bronies though. The psychological damage is probably permanent there.
When you huff irony all day - you have nothing left. Irony untrammeled is very devouring and vacuous. I began to realize this when I was still a stupid 'bohemian', and so did some others I knew. Years before I had any interest in centrism and rightism.
ReplyDeleteKyle: Oh god, bronies. I almost mentioned that when I posted Chris-chan above but decided our host didn't need to be smacked in the face with Juggalos, CWC, and bronies all in one go. Well, until now. Poor Mangan.
ReplyDeleteI think the way Western Civilization is going -- the economies are visibly contracting on in itself (and affecting young people at that), classism is returning in BAD ways, and there is a severe lack of halfway decent culture or serious new ideas in society anymore -- well really, this sort of hipsterism (or its Juggalo distant relative) is little more than a subconscious comfort. What else is there? There are fine sites raising discussion and offering solutions like Mangan's but few know of them and even can think outside of their prevous "progressive" worldview to think about what they say and process it in their heads. I despise these various subcultures as much as any of you here but I see little real alternative. Even liberal websites like Slate are saying that immigrants and old people are screwing today's youth over in the job market, the latter doubly so due to so many resources being shoved to them by official means.
So to tie all of this back into the original topic at hand: the future of the white race? Not good. It's been ruined by decades of mismanagement before any Juggalos (or probably anyone in this comments section, judging by the meme talk in here) were even born. I know Mangan just noted not long ago that Latin peoples would likely replace it in at least this continent. And at this rate I wonder if it's so bad. The West now is comparable to the Roman Empire in its last, miserable, decadent centuries. (Really, what is a lot of hipsterism but glorified modern gnosticism and epicurianism repeated?) Yeah, the Germanics came into the Western Roman Empire (not unlike the way Latins are coming in fast into the USA now) and it took a while to get to speed, but what they produced was ultimately preferable to what came before it. We can only hope for that here. (And yes, I know I will sound like a heretic for saying all of that.)
Also, RS: I don't know how old you are but you sound like you went through years ago what I am going through now. Unfortunately things are worse. I'm 25, spent the last couple of years in California and the cities of the northeast, and while the technical basics are the same, the hipsters and bohemians don't even have the educational and cultural credentials now that yours in your day had. I'm often considered the brainiest and most cultured in all of my groups of friends now. (Hilariously, all of my friends also consider me the "whitest" one of the bunch, something readers of this blog might want to know.)
ReplyDeleteI agree with your basic premise that hipster types are more of the "cog-elite" than Juggalos, and why it's more worrisome. And well... be afraid. I know a lot of people my age, or even on the verge of 30, who still dress up like emo and scenester kids (and hang out with actual kids, more due to immaturity than anything) and really. Does anyone expect the "next generation", much less rest of this decade to go well with news like that? The 21st century shall be a very interesting one for America -- and the world.
They were inhaling nitrous via whipped cream propellant canister cartridges called "whippets" or maybe "whip-its". More commonly N2O is sold in balloons filled by large tanks. To learn more about that business, which is brisk in the jamband world in the Northeast, google "Philadelphia Nitrous Mafia".
ReplyDeleteExcuse me I meant Klimt's Music I, not II.
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Schiele's 'Agony', and 'Autumn Sun I'.
http://atributetoart.com/ufiles/schiele_agony_thumb.jpg
http://www.oilpaintings-sales.com/images-big/egon-schiele/egon-schiele-autumn-sun-i-77116.jpg
I'm in my 30s and had never seen Juggalos nor the Insane Clown Posse before today.
ReplyDeleteOver the past hour or two, I became somewhat (perversely) fascinated by this sub-culture. I watched the video Dennis links to. Then I watched a few music videos on YouTube. And then, via google, I found some rather raunchy videos of "Juggalo parties."
In various interviews on YouTube, it seems that many of the "Juggalos" said they were Juggalos because "it is family." Obviously many of these people might lack any family structure so this acts as a substitute family as do other sub-cultures?
In a traditional setting, these people would realize that race is extended family and one has obligations to one's extended family. In this sense, the whole Juggalo phenomenon could be seen as surrogate racial kinship.
In many respects, this is just another poisonous subculture, like many others, and contains wigger elements, although it's not nearly as wigger as other white rap subcultures, possibly because there are some heavy metal influenced blended in here?
"It's all about family" is the right attitude; the problem is that these people found the wrong family.
An observation. The music of the Insane Clown Posse and the fan videos seem to combine a combination of blood / carnage and sexuality. This combination is as old as civilization. Think of the Roman commoners lust for blood combined with sexuality. Perhaps this tendency is ingrained in many humans. Some of these tendencies, however, seem to have been bred out of modern Europeans because of the downward mobility of genes and people during and since Medieval Europe (cf. Clark and others). It's unfortunate to see that many of these tendencies are still there. And things will become much worse as the US becomes more of a Third World country. Just today the NYC police had to warn women not to wear skirts because it makes it easer for them to get raped. Welcome to Brazil.
ReplyDelete> I'm 25, spent the last couple of years in California and the cities of the northeast, and while the technical basics are the same, the hipsters and bohemians don't even have the educational and cultural credentials now that yours in your day had.
ReplyDeleteI'm 30ish now. To wax focio-logickal, most of the people I lived with were more bookish than the good majority of eg the 70 people would we have at a very occasional house party, or the further 30 people that one or another of us might invite. So we weren't totally average for the culture, but not rare or odd. Maybe around the 83rd percentile for being into paintings and especially books. But more than 17% would have lived in a house some year with paper copies of Vienna Jugendstil or some such paintings posted on the wall.
We ourselves weren't much different than what's described by noted sociologist and pro-decadence reformer Jack Kerouac, it seems there were at least several hundred very like ourselves in the east coast zone up to Providence and Boston, probably more like 1,500 or 2,500, almost all 20-28. How many people really immersed in the whole culture in that geographic area, more like 25,000, or for a broader definition two or three times that, the definition being quite fuzzy.
> And at this rate I wonder if it's so bad. The West now is comparable to the Roman Empire in its last, miserable, decadent centuries.
But the germ is still there aestevating through a hard and cruel summer, of pretty much the most artistic, philosophical, and physically handsome people, whose fate is to advance. There I have chosen rather strong and frank words, but while all people have value enough to very strongly deserve to exist, it's no sin to be proud of our societies' large share of human achievements, when we ourselves would never have created a world with peoples unequal in that respect. The real sin is that of enemies who would paint what is among the very best as being among the worst, disregarding the potential destruction of the very highly valuable, which is a very infamous and crime against the unknown god, divine κόσμος [kosmos] - of possibly permanent significance.
> Yeah, the Germanics came into the Western Roman Empire (not unlike the way Latins are coming in fast into the USA now) and it took a while to get to speed, but what they produced was ultimately preferable to what came before it. We can only hope for that here. (And yes, I know I will sound like a heretic for saying all of that.)
But the thing is that the Germanics also had the seeds of particular potential, primitive as they yet were in their artifacts in 476 AD. While the Persians (Hafiz) and Egyptians and S and NE Asians have done a lot, they don't do as much as us of the things we ourselves love the most. My guess is they would not take the world in an equally good direction. The best future is a gradual biologically-transhuman progress in which we lead and guide the world somewhat more than the rest do. This in addition to other strong arguments for our continued existence, such as that it is better for all races to continue to exist.
> - of possibly permanent significance.
ReplyDeleteI meant to say of possibly vast and permanent significance.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-county-usc-20110930,0,6546794,full.story
ReplyDelete> Just today the NYC police had to warn women not to wear skirts because it makes it easer for them to get raped. Welcome to Brazil.
ReplyDeleteAll this has happened before, everywhere - the eudaimonist eventually resurged in all races: the lover of value who does not envy and hate the individuals more valuable than himself by his own standard, but instead is somewhat more grateful for their existence than he is for that of all the rest of mankind. That's (the universalist half of) rightism. The supreme principle of the beautiful, the sublime, and the excellent in life for every man at least half-capable of it, and the highest praise and power for the best, must triumph soon. We will not commit cruelties on holders of the opposite values, but we will disempower them more avidly and more permanently.
Contrary view, how many people were shot there? How many assaults? How many robberies? You and I may not like them, because they act like fools, and dress even worse, but even in their chaos there is nothing like the mandatory 5-7 shootings at a rap concert. To say nothing of Urban Beach Week or Black Bike Week at Daytona.
ReplyDeleteIf it all hits the fan, who'd you rather have with you in the fighting, a Juggalo or some effete hipster? At least the Juggalo has a nodding acquaintance with fighting, more than you can say about the hipster. The same goes for Flatbillers, and the rest.
That's what I'm for. As Kurtagic says, we really need to explain to the body politic exactly what we want, in the abstract and the concrete.
ReplyDeleteWe want Athens again, Jerusalem and Byzantium, Prussia - Wagner, Heraclitus, the Song of Songs, and all that which they reflect in the lives of both those who do partake of the three immortal cultural works I name, and those who do not partake.
Something far different from the exact same thing as the life of those four places, but with a considerable amount of the same eudaimonism and striving for the good and sacred, in a word the same aliveness. Without severe illiberality towards decadence, but with a strong teaching and practice in the opposite direction.
No one should be living in painfully severe poverty, but these things and ideals of ours do not come from consumer goods, or from imaginary equality. --We want to set up the opposite idols for human societies, in order to have the higher things in addition to a fair amount of economic prosperity and a fair amount of satisfaction in oneself and one's particular nature and value. The true life for man has all three.
I don't know how I got off into this tangent but there it is.
Another pitiful group of "men." The hipsters in that commercial about teaching people to crochet in Africa...
ReplyDeleteWalter has imo the correct explanation. These people have no where else to go, nothing else to turn to. Progressive culture is so alien and hostile to them, this is what they come up with. This is why we need as a first step, pro-white organizations and the ability to publicly say that being white is good.
ReplyDeleteHaha wow. When Chris-Chan becomes a topic of discussion on Mangan's, you know things are getting bad.
ReplyDelete(Roissy actually sort of had a post about him a while ago)
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ReplyDeleteK(yle), don't knock My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
ReplyDeleteIt actually contains (probably unintentionally) a message that is very HBD.
Higher IQ version in Antwerp
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CdTAiaLes
It actually contains (probably unintentionally) a message that is very HBD.
ReplyDeleteNo, no, I'm still going to knock it. Especially for grown men or young adults without children or young siblings respectively or some other reason to watch it; much less obsessively become a fan of it.
There are three kinds of ponies (I assume they are races...): earth ponies
Mud ponies, lol.
The founders of Western Culture were the Greeks, especially the founders of philosophy, the Doric Greeks. Xenophon was very impressed with them; he remarked on their Height, their Strength, and their Happiness. He said they were the happiest men he has ever witnessed. He said they were all trained to be "Kaloskagathos" which literally means "The Good and the Beautifull". Every Spartiate was trained to be a "Kaloskagathos".
ReplyDeleteBoy what a difference. These juggalo's are unrecognizable as 'Europeans' or even 'men'. They are neo-Barbarians. Unfit for civilization. The whole of modern society is built upon deracination, de-Christianizing, and de-masculinizing. This is what is produced when you take away all metaphysical values. Nature abhors a vacuum and from a lack of metaphysical values, comes hedonistic/animalistic values. These people have become animalized. It is the animals of the Mad Max movie. As someone else has commented, one large Mansion family of weirdos. I live in a college town, and the enormous amount of freaks is amazing. Nobody is "normal" now. The music in the coffee shops is downright ugly and weird. Like produces like and this ugliness and weirdness is producing people who mirror the freakness. It is on purpose. They want this. They enjoy this.
K(yle):
ReplyDeleteYour loss.
Off topic--
ReplyDeleteSerbia has banned the gay pride parade that USG was pressuring them not to ban.
They banned it because they feared violence from serbian reactionaries.
Time for the US to bomb again.
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IHTG: Do you honestly not doubt Chris-chan is the personified form of western decadence and an early look into the future for the end of our civilization? Or any civilization, for that matter.
ReplyDeleteI'd love for Mangan to post his thoughts on CWC or to review on issue of Sonichu or something.
Juggalo funeral:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMv9d1pIoBA
The fact that the Juggalo subculture emerged from populations of the germanic portion of the west is just further evidence that the nordic, germanic and anglo-saxon parts of the west are at this point not able to be saved from their slide back to barbarism nor is it even really worth it at this point.
ReplyDeleteDo you honestly not doubt Chris-chan is the personified form of western decadence and an early look into the future for the end of our civilization?
ReplyDeleteI guess that depends what you mean.
If you mean that CWC represents a trend in which larger and larger number of people are withdrawing from productive society to a childish world of videogames and porn, then yes.
But CWC is a bit more than that. His damaged autistic brain is incapable of understanding the world around him. He's withdrawn not just of out of laziness, but also because he's biologically incapable of being part of a society. If that's also a trend, then we really are in trouble.
If you're worried that CWC is indicative of a larger trend in terms of both loserdom and biological entropy, then you may not want to look up that he is not the only bloated, pathetic manchild on the market today. Have you seen this guy?
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He's probably visually more easier for your average comment writer here to hate as well, given his self-roclaimed communism, hatred for "anglos", and transsexualism.
And to tie it back into the very original topic: both CWC and ADF are juggalos. How utterly unsurprising.
ReplyDeleteJuggalo subculture is indeed weird. Apparently there's a whole sub-genre of porn called "juggalette porn," and apparently every year juggalos and juggalettes rent an island for a big annual juggalo party -- filled with bad music, drugs, nudity and group sex. What I'd like to know is how in the heck do these people have the money to rent an island?
ReplyDeleteAll in all, however, I'd say these people are harmless. These are low IQ whites, but they obviously keep to themselves and aren't very violent. I doubt there's very much violence at one of these events, other than the occasional brawl.
Compare this to Cinco de Mayo festivals where mestizo gangbangers pack heat and roam the streets. (Last year, in my area, mestizo gangs opened fire at a Cinco de Mayo party.)
Or, even worse, compare this to the growing black rap festivals in Florida, which are replete with violence and murders:
http://www.vdare.com/articles/haitian-youth-raymond-herisse-and-urban-beach-week-coming-to-an-america-near-you-unless-the
In sum, these are indeed low IQ whites, but they're pretty harmless compared to your average mestizos or blacks.
* does an image search for "juggalette porn" *
ReplyDelete* comes back disappointed *
We ourselves weren't much different than what's described by noted sociologist and pro-decadence reformer Jack Kerouac ...
ReplyDeleteThe problem with young people who get into Kerouac is that they never consider any critical view of him from someone who would also have had cred as an outsider for that time. I'm speaking of Truman Capote, who when asked what he thought of Kerouac's writing replied, "Kerouac isn't a writer - he's a typist." The weird thing about our times is that there seem to be no big-brain writers who want to psychoanalyze the types being discussed here. It would have been delicious to hear what Capote would say about this need for subculture.
If you mean that CWC represents a trend in which larger and larger number of people are withdrawing from productive society to a childish world of videogames and porn, then yes.
ReplyDeleteUdolpho's forum (MPCdot.com) does a good job cataloging these lost-to-the-Internet souls with reactionary gallows humor. Obligatory links:
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TVTropes and Troper tales
My Little Pony Corrals Unlikely Fanboys Known as ‘Bronies’
Passive Aggressiveness From Microagressions
OkCupid thread
The Nerd Sex
Commenters here are more than welcome to join in. Personally I'd love to see Svigor and Pat H. post in the political asylum
The Juggolos loom even worse when one considers that the Peasall Sisters decided to stop performing.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv1eMl02HCE&feature=related
Juggalos are against racism and molestation and rape:
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Well, now, isn't that special.
Juggalos are against racism and molestation and rape:
ReplyDeleteAnd slavery? Would they go back in time and eliminate slavery if they could?
And what about sharks, the kind that tear families apart but are so majestic?
Chad, I sometimes read Udolpho's stuff but something about the atmosphere there turns me off. Or maybe it's the weird format? Maybe both. I get a strong whiff of nihilism and/or elitism there and that's not my cup of tea. Maybe I just don't "get it" yet?
ReplyDeleteLike this thread. I skimmed/read the whole thing and I'm just not interested.
On the other hand:
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I only just started reading the thread but so far Pleasureman really seems to have his shit together. And a competent summary of MacDonald's trilogy was sorely needed.
Seems the media will dig up any shit to protect their boy.
ReplyDeleteWhat a change from 2008 when they gave him a pass.
The problem with Udolpho is that he has clear contempt for almost everyone with whom he does not agree. That makes him useful when it comes to finding quick ways of taking down people who are truly heinous by ridiculing them, but it also makes his writings rather unpleasant.
ReplyDeletethis phenomenon goes back to circa 1997. it is old and i don't know what happened to the juggalos of the late 90's. i think the lead "singer" calls himself "Violent Jay."
ReplyDeleteA brief reading of the history of the juggalo phenomenon on Wikipedia (and a brief reading is all it deserves) reveals that one of the founders of Insane Clown Posse had been (after getting out of jail) a wrestler - or I should say a "wrestler" - i.e. a performer in what used to be called the "Big-Time Wrestling" business. I can imagine no better evidence of the stupidity of ICP, or thier fans.
ReplyDeleteIn watching that videologue of degeneracy, two things struck me:
1.) The fans insistance on referring to the noise emitted by ICP as "music". It is not. Rap can no more be considered music than can vomitting in a public lavatory be considered art. It is talking - banal obsenities shouted into a microphone, accompanied by idiot caperings and stupid looking hand-gestures.
2.) Many of them say that they like the juggalos because among them they are not "judged" as they are in normal society. Someone should have told them (I bet that many of them come from broken homes, and had no-accounts for parents) that part of life is judgement - judging others, and being judged by others. They damned well will be judged and they damned well ought to be judged. And if decent people judge their pasty, pudgy, tatooed, pierced, drunken, drugged-out persons and find them wanting, it is because they are pathetic, self-indulgent cretins.
Dennis Mangan: "If these clowns represent anything close to the future of the white race, we're doomed"
ReplyDeleteIf Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope represent the future of the white race, I'll pack my bags now.
Svigor: I'm pretty sure Pleasureman is Udolpho.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, he's not a friend of the Jews, but I think he pretends to be much more of a hardcore antisemite than he actually is.
It's part of that atmosphere that you dislike - a lot of stuff is said purely for shock value.
The thing about Udolpho's forum is that it is a spinoff/continuation of the infamous SASS forum, which was populated by trolls who were banned from the SomethingAwful.com forums (where the moderation is disproportionately leftist), and they still constitute the majority of its user base. The idea is to have a mix of SASS's shock/snark humor with highbrow right-wing political discussions or, as they like to say, "a trailer park some days, the lyceum others." Unsurprisingly a lot of people find that off-putting.
ReplyDeleteChad, I sometimes read Udolpho's stuff but something about the atmosphere there turns me off. Or maybe it's the weird format? Maybe both. I get a strong whiff of nihilism and/or elitism there and that's not my cup of tea. Maybe I just don't "get it" yet?
ReplyDeleteI'm totally with you when it comes to being turned off by nihilism and elitism, but I think that's a superficial characterization of the forum. People like bronies, juggalos, and miscellaneous broken Internet nerds are the products of a profoundly ill society that is really no society at all -- a patchwork collection of atomized individuals rather than an actual community. Perhaps they deserve our pity more than our ridicule and scorn, but it's tough to be compassionate when they are trying to spread the same disease that they're afflicted with. If having a paternalistic concern for our most vulnerable members of society is elitist, then I'm guilty as charged. Similarly, if needing to have the occasional laugh at the absurdity of our present situation just to keep myself sane is nihilistic, then I'm guilty of that as well.
Ultimately I think that we both agree that there's something profoundly wrong with our country today. We're asking the same questions: How did this happen? Who / what is responsible? How can we fix it? We might disagree with the answers to those questions, but, at least when we're asking them, we're fellow travelers on the same journey.
Just to be clear: the official MPC party line is firmly against our 'Ancient Friends'. The degree of firebrand varies across the forum users, but the verdict is unanimous.
ReplyDeleteFor me personally, that forum is a fun mixture of pompous humor and reactionary temperament. Just as blogs like this one attract a very sophisticated, bookish sort, a more irreverent treatment of the same issues can draw an overlapping audience. Some level of charisma is necessary to sell a nationalistic, conservative value set to the rest of the world. Consider it a recruiting experiment.
Sailer posts at MPC though you'd never guess who he is.
ReplyDelete"MPC" is a forum for self-loathing slavs, Jews, blacks, homos, IT nerds, gym rats with body dysmorphia, drug addicts, Greeks, Italians and bronies. Zero legit whites post there.
ReplyDelete"MPC" is a forum for self-loathing slavs, Jews, blacks, homos, IT nerds, gym rats with body dysmorphia, drug addicts, Greeks, Italians and bronies. Zero legit whites post there.
ReplyDeleteIs that you, Mlad?
"MPC" is a forum for self-loathing slavs, Jews, blacks, homos, IT nerds, gym rats with body dysmorphia, drug addicts, Greeks, Italians and bronies. Zero legit whites post there.
ReplyDeletethis.
@Glaivester
ReplyDeleteK(yle), don't knock My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
It actually contains (probably unintentionally) a message that is very HBD.
Most fantasy stories involve different races, whether they be orcs and elves, different color ponies, or what not. I don't think anyone has become racially aware from reading Lord of the Rings or watching this TV show. The mere fact that it's *fantasy* means people aren't going to draw any real-life parallels.
And I agree with Kyle. It's disturbing that grown men are watching and obsessing over a cartoon show for little girls.
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ReplyDeleteThat comment is about half true and half false, but it is 100% mad. I'm in my 40s and live in Texas. I think this is the same guy who periodically lashes out at me in Sailer's comments. I figure it's some faggot nerd who is upset because of words I typed.
ReplyDeleteI prefer to post about bodybuilding on The New Effort (www.theneweffort.com). My posts about new muscle efforts, new complexes, and my current traps and delts projects aren't obscured by political scribbling there. It's a true bodybuilding forum unlike MPC or bb.com, both of which have too much unfunny detritus.
ReplyDeleteThese are all the reasons why people don't "get" MPC.
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