The map depicts the level of corruption in the world's nations, as determined by Transparency International. Denmark, New Zealand, and Singapore are tied for first place as the least corrupt countries, and the U.S. does not even make the top 20.
What jumps out from the map is the correlation between corruption and levels of trust. Trust and corruption could be considered the flip side of each other: if you trust people and your government, one important reason will be because you believe that they are not corrupt. Conversely, if your country is corrupt, you won't trust people. Indeed, Transparency International itself makes the relationship explicit by saying, "Transparency and accountability are critical to restoring trust and turning back the tide of corruption." Western European countries and the Anglosphere have the highest levels of trust, which in turn is correlated with GDP; that can also be seen on the map. Note that the country in Latin America with the lowest levels of corruption, and presumably the highest levels of trust, is Chile, which stands out as having the highest GDP per capita there.
Robert Putnam's work has shown that diversity increases levels of distrust. That could partially explain why the U.S. doesn't make the top 20 in terms of least corruption, and why we'll probably remain out of the top 20.
Hey Dennis,
ReplyDeleteI would have to disagree with this one. Chileans don not trust each other. At all. But, society here is so divided, so self- segregated that mistrust is controlled. And mutual. Also, Chile is very hierarchical and regimented. There are police everywhere. It's a strict society. But it means you see old couples out walking at midnight, utterly fearless.
I continually wonder why Singapore shows up on so many surveys as this unimpeachable outpost of financial integrity and honesty and a bastion of civilization amidst Asian poverty and chaos. I endured two years there, and let me state unambiguously: It ain't so!!
ReplyDeleteSingapore's much-touted laws regarding jay walking, chewing gum, littering, etc. are enforced selectively - primarily against non-Chinese visitors to discourage the peace/love/crunchy granola/pedophilia tourists that Thailand continues to host. Everyone jaywalks, and the sensors on public elevators exist because Chinese men (not those evil White tourists) like to urinate in them. Giggling Chinese office girls (who have trouble answering the phone coherently and cannot take a message without garbling it - but hey, they're beloved by a cohort of Western men who think all White women are evil, ball-busting feminists) habitually drop their trash as they walk, and expect others to pick up after them. Plenty of Chinese have multiple wives, despite the government fallacy of stable family formation, and the birth rate continues to drop precipitously despite government programs imploring the Han Chinese majority to outbreed the Indian and Malay minorities.
Chinese women routinely choose Caesarean section births as safer and less disfiguring than natural childbirth, and induce labor weeks early to endure an auspicious birth date. And I mustn't forget the traditional Chinese practice of seclusion for six weeks after birth, with no bathing on pain of rheumatism or arthitis. Real modern alternative medicine, that is.
Just as they do everywhere else around the world, the Chinese like to set up cash businesses, the better to avoid government taxes and skim as much as possible off the top.
The only possible grounds for grading Singapore low on the corruption scale is that government workers generally hew carefully to the PAP (People's Action Party) line, and members of the same clan generally take care before scamming a fellow clan member. Within a majority-Chinese society, the clan/tribal structure operates freely; their traditional insularity and xenophobia generally emerge in societies they're attempting to dominate, such as the U.S. and Australia.
Without much modification, I could take this map and replace the story with one explaining the current patterns of world migration. For the most part you could label the red areas as placing from which people depart and the yellow areas as their destinations.
ReplyDeleteThis inevitably leads to the question, why are the yellow nations allowing folks from the red ones to come? At best they are taking the best and brightest away from the red areas leaving those areas in worse shape. At worst, they are importing the culture of corruption into the yellow areas which doesn't make much sense.
@Sheila
ReplyDeleteNo need to wonder why Singapore is so well off these days. It's ruled by a high IQ Chinese majority. According to IQ and Global Inequality, Singapore and Hong Kong have the two highest average IQs in the world, not a surprise when you consider that both places are majority Han(especially in Hong Kong where 95% of the population is Chinese, as opposed to something like 75-80% in Singapore; also not surprisingly, Hong Kong ranked fairly high on that list of the least corrupt places).
Chinese women routinely choose Caesarean section births as safer and less disfiguring than natural childbirth, and induce labor weeks early to endure an auspicious birth date. And I mustn't forget the traditional Chinese practice of seclusion for six weeks after birth, with no bathing on pain of rheumatism or arthitis. Real modern alternative medicine, that is.
ReplyDeleteThe Chinese do indeed do a lot of C-sections. Though C-section rates are quite high in the US and elsewhere as well.
I'm not sure how these silly superstitions are that much different from, say, believing that a man died and rose from the dead 2,000 years ago, is god and is to be worshipped and prayed to, that new born babies have to be anointed with oil or dunked in water in order to remove original sin and be saved, etc.
The funny part about these maps is that after you've seen a few of them you realize they all look the same. White countries on top, then Asia and Latin America, with Africa at the bottom. The few exceptions to this pattern are also usually the same - Japan with the White countries, former Soviet states with the Asian/Latin mediocrities. I wonder how many people have become race realists just from looking at these maps and noticing the pattern.
ReplyDelete***Denmark, New Zealand, and Singapore are tied for first place as the least corrupt countries, and the U.S. does not even make the top 20. ***
ReplyDeleteThe top countries have similarly small populations (around 5 million) until you hit Canada in 6th place with 33 million.
Anon said:
ReplyDeleteThe funny part about these maps is that after you've seen a few of them you realize they all look the same. White countries on top, then Asia and Latin America, with Africa at the bottom.
Which means, yeah, you guessed it, that anyone who makes these lists, and indeed, those who define corruption, is ... RAAAAAACIIISSS[T].
See, it's just their culture to be corrupt, and we have to respect different cultures.
(I'll go an hide my racist ass now.)
Looks like most of the Southern and Eastern European countries are pretty mediocre as well. I for one wouldn't group those nations with the Western European ones under the banner of "white countries".
ReplyDeleteYan Shen said:
ReplyDeleteNo need to wonder why Singapore is so well off these days. It's ruled by a high IQ Chinese majority. According to IQ and Global Inequality, Singapore and Hong Kong have the two highest average IQs in the world, not a surprise when you consider that both places are majority Han(especially in Hong Kong where 95% of the population is Chinese, as opposed to something like 75-80% in Singapore; also not surprisingly, Hong Kong ranked fairly high on that list of the least corrupt places).
Did you have any trouble with cognitive dissonance there?
Right next to Hong Kong is a very big country with ~90% Han Chinese, and it is pretty corrupt, while Hong Kong and Singapore are former British held city states (Well, HK is now back in Chinese hands and had part of the mainland ...).
Surely they didn't immediately become non-corrupt when the British moved out?
I suspect that HK will become more and more corrupt over time unless the LegCo exerts an enormous effort to prevent that ... since corruption seems to be a natural Chinese attribute as well.
No need to wonder why Singapore is so well off these days. It's ruled by a high IQ Chinese majority.
ReplyDeleteSo why is China so poor and corrupt? Not enough Chinese?
Yan Shen also forgot to mention (correction: is completely clueless and indoctrinated) that both Singapore and Hong Kong have a long history as British colonies. With British law and justice comes trust, and ensuant wealth.
ReplyDeleteBoth Singapore and Hong Kong have British style economies and administration, to which those certain, wise, Chinese have adapted and been acculturated.
Of course it's too early to judge yet whether they can maintain their British bequeathed elite status or whether they'll revert to Chinese type.
If the Yan Shen's have their way the result will be a foregone conclusion.
I'm guessing that China will join the ranks of the first world nations in a few decades. It's recorded almost 30 years of GDP growth averaging 10% or so annually.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China
"China is the world's fastest-growing major economy, with average growth rates of 10% for the past 30 years."
Here's another interesting recent Times article.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1990224,00.html
"In the Chinese Year of the Tiger, two Asian tigers have leapt out of recession to take the top spots in a ranking of the most competitive nations in the world.
In the 2010 edition of the World Competitiveness Yearbook, released on Wednesday by the Lausanne-based Institute for Management Development (IMD), Singapore and Hong Kong have both moved up one spot to take first and second place respectively as the world's most competitive nations. Both countries have now surpassed the U.S. for the first time in decades, knocking it into third place after its 16-year reign as No. 1."
The favored white-flight destinations from the previous thread (Argentina, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Chile) don't look so good on this map.
ReplyDeleteThe funny part about these maps is that after you've seen a few of them you realize they all look the same. White countries on top, then Asia and Latin America, with Africa at the bottom. The few exceptions to this pattern are also usually the same - Japan with the White countries, former Soviet states with the Asian/Latin mediocrities.
ReplyDeleteSo... Japan is white, and Russia isn't?
Good to see Oz come in at 8th spot. Interesting to see Ireland come in 6 places ahead of the UK.
ReplyDeleteSo much for the theory of Celtic inferiority.
And to think we achieved it all without the Chinese. Me tink it 'mazing!
"So why is China so poor and corrupt? Not enough Chinese?"
ReplyDeleteThere is this thing called communism. Not sure if you've heard of it. Was this actually a serious question?
"I'm guessing that China will join the ranks of the first world nations in a few decades. It's recorded almost 30 years of GDP growth averaging 10% or so annually."
ReplyDeleteI'd be guessing not Yan Shen. Along with that growth came massive environmental degradation and a male/female birth ratio of approx 120/100, amongst other negative factors.
Chinese like to gloat that they hold US debt giving China leverage over the Americans. That holding is estimated at $1.7 trillion. However, as J. Paul Getty said "If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem,"..."If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem." (Source)
In short: you ruined your environment, smashed your culture, skewed your sex ratios destroying the future for a large proportion of your population, and all for a debt you count as credit that will prove worthless, or at least permanently binding your nation's future to the fate of your debtor.
No doubting Chinese ingenuity, they're too clever by half.
@ kiwiguy
ReplyDeleteCanada is basically a gigantic Norway run by WASPS, so it is not very corrupt, despite its larger size.
That is changing as we import more and more Chinese and East Indians/Pakis etc. (1% per year!), and they start to filter into the bureaucracy.
Sheila said...
ReplyDeleteI continually wonder why Singapore shows up on so many surveys as this unimpeachable outpost of financial integrity and honesty and a bastion of civilization amidst Asian poverty and chaos. I endured two years there, and let me state unambiguously: It ain't so!!
Singapore's much-touted laws regarding jay walking, chewing gum, littering, etc. are enforced selectively - primarily against non-Chinese visitors to discourage the peace/love/crunchy granola/pedophilia tourists that Thailand continues to host. Everyone jaywalks, and the sensors on public elevators exist because Chinese men (not those evil White tourists) like to urinate in them. Giggling Chinese office girls (who have trouble answering the phone coherently and cannot take a message without garbling it - but hey, they're beloved by a cohort of Western men who think all White women are evil, ball-busting feminists)
Wow, not bitter there are you? What does it matter that some Western men like Chinese women?
habitually drop their trash as they walk, and expect others to pick up after them. Plenty of Chinese have multiple wives, despite the government fallacy of stable family formation,
What does having multiple wives have to do with stable family formation?
My father-in-law (now deceased) is suspected of having maintained another wife, but from what I can see, both families were very stable and looked after.
and the birth rate continues to drop precipitously despite government programs imploring the Han Chinese majority to outbreed the Indian and Malay minorities.
So, is this due to Chinese men maintaining multiple wives, or the brainless Chinese women dropping their trash all over the place and expecting other people to pick it up? Enquiring minds would like to know.
Chinese women routinely choose Caesarean section births as safer and less disfiguring than natural childbirth, and induce labor weeks early to endure an auspicious birth date. And I mustn't forget the traditional Chinese practice of seclusion for six weeks after birth, with no bathing on pain of rheumatism or arthitis. Real modern alternative medicine, that is.
So, do you have any actual statistics on the number of Chinese women having C-sections to help maintain their figures, or get a more auspicious date?
Both my children were natural births.
Also, do you have any stats on the number of new Chinese mothers who refuse to bathe for six weeks after birth?
All those I know were pretty quick to have baths, but perhaps that was because they were from Hong Kong.
Just as they do everywhere else around the world, the Chinese like to set up cash businesses, the better to avoid government taxes and skim as much as possible off the top.
You know you have listed a lot of stereotypes here and my experiences have generally been different.
It is, however, the case, that lots of Chinese businesses, where they can be, are cash based and pay under the table etc. However, I put that down to having had to, for many centuries, deal with imperial governments that confiscate everything people produce.
Here is another interesting index
ReplyDeleteThe Legatum Prosperity Index
... the world's only global assessment of wealth and wellbeing; unlike other studies that rank countries by actual levels of wealth, life satisfaction or development, the Prosperity Index produces rankings based upon the very foundations of prosperity those factors that will help drive economic growth and produce happy citizens over the long term.
Rankings starting with first place:
Norway, Denmark, Finland, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, Canada, Switzerland, Netherlands, United States, Ireland, Iceland, United Kingdom, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Singapore, Japan...
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete""So why is China so poor and corrupt? Not enough Chinese?""
There is this thing called communism. Not sure if you've heard of it. Was this actually a serious question?"
Was yours? Hungary and Poland were communist for as long as China, but they show up a lot yellower on this map. Besides, China isn't really communist anymore and hasn't been for years.
Severn's quite valid point was in response to Yan Shen's typically disingenous post.
The Chinese gov't is lying about the growth rates. They're building empty cities to pump it up.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree that asking why China is poor today is pretty stupid. They didn't open up to market reforms until 1978 and were basically dirt poor at that point due to decades of terrible centralized rule under Mao's brand of Communism.
ReplyDeleteHungary has a population of 10 million. Poland has a population of 38 million. China has a population of 1334 million. There are areas in China that are more more populous than those nations and more developed. Overall though, the average per capita GDP is still relatively low. But Severn's question misses the point altogether. Since China abandoned Maoism, its basically put together 30 years of growth at roughly 10% annually. Clearly its on been on the right path for a long time. If anything, I'd say that even mainland China would seem to validate Yan Shen's claims, if one pays attention to how impressively its been developing over the past few decades.
Within a majority-Chinese society, the clan/tribal structure operates freely; their traditional insularity and xenophobia generally emerge in societies they're attempting to dominate, such as the U.S. and Australia.
ReplyDeleteThe Chinese problem is one of displacement. They can't really dominate Whites through "mind-control" i.e. cultural, social, political, media, religious etc. manipulation and influence. The only way they'd be able to dominate Whites is probably through military control.
Displacement is definitely a problem, though I don't think their traditional insularity and xenophobia have been. For the most part they've existed in the United States in their own settings without affecting real American culture.
Some groups who cluster in urban areas have found it advantageous to "urbanize" other populations less adapted to urbanization, and they have done so to the American populace over the past few generation through cultural, social, academic, political, etc. "mind-control." They have a long history of reducing self-sufficiency in other populations via increasing interdependence via their trade-routes. And they have been taking many of the prime females from the populace. The Chinese haven't really been involved in this apart from providing females to the native born males that have been displaced by this "urbanization."
Haha! It's fun watching Yan Shet squirm over Chinese corruption. Chinese are as corrupt as they come, and I doubt very much that's going to change in Yan Shet's lifetime.
ReplyDeleteCorruption is a big deal. Its opposite, trust, is vital to economic performance. It has huge implications for quality of life, social trust, etc.
Was yours? Hungary and Poland were communist for as long as China, but they show up a lot yellower on this map. Besides, China isn't really communist anymore and hasn't been for years.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention, Chinese forced communism on themselves. Hungary and Poland had huge external pressures. As did Russia, for that matter - sans Yan Shet's gods, the high-IQ "cognitive elitist" Ashkenazi (who practice ethnopatriotism and ethnic supremacism, not "cognitive elitism," i.e., the smart strategy), Russia probably wouldn't have gone communist.
all for a debt you count as credit that will prove worthless, or at least permanently binding your nation's future to the fate of your debtor.
ReplyDeleteYeah, sure, China holds a lot of our debt, but that's what inflation's for. That, and balancing trade.
Wow, not bitter there are you? What does it matter that some Western men like Chinese women?
ReplyDeleteIt's okay for white men to chase yellow women. It's also okay for white women to look down their noses at these men. I mean, how bitter are you, bashing a white woman for wanting to preserve her race?
You think yellow men are all hunky-dory about seeing white men banging their women?
In the 2010 edition of the World Competitiveness Yearbook, released on Wednesday by the Lausanne-based Institute for Management Development (IMD), Singapore and Hong Kong have both moved up one spot to take first and second place respectively as the world's most competitive nations. Both countries have now surpassed the U.S. for the first time in decades, knocking it into third place after its 16-year reign as No. 1."
ReplyDeleteIt's hilarious that Hong Kong took a second seat to the U.S. in the ranking for 16 years. That Yan Shet thinks it's some kind of victory for China's richest city-state (made so by Britain) is equally hilarious.
Wh are Chile and Uruguay better than Argentina? More Spaniards, fewer Italians?
ReplyDelete"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteBut Severn's question misses the point altogether. Since China abandoned Maoism, its basically put together 30 years of growth at roughly 10% annually. Clearly its on been on the right path for a long time. If anything, I'd say that even mainland China would seem to validate Yan Shen's claims, if one pays attention to how impressively its been developing over the past few decades."
Severn's point was about the colors on the map. Those colors do not indicate poverty - they indicate corruption. I don't doubt but that China is likely to become a more prosperous nation in the future. I also don't doubt but that it will likely have more corruption than we expect in western countries.
Svigor said...
ReplyDelete" Wow, not bitter there are you? What does it matter that some Western men like Chinese women?
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It's okay for white men to chase yellow women. It's also okay for white women to look down their noses at these men. I mean, how bitter are you, bashing a white woman for wanting to preserve her race?
Well, I was simply asking question, not bashing. In addition, the proper equivalence is:
It OK for white women to look down their noses at white men who prefer Chinese women just as its OK for white men to look down their noses at white women who prefer black men with their bigger, um, confidence.
How do you feel about that, Svigor? In the US there are more cases of white women getting it on with black men than there are white men getting it on with Asian females!
You think yellow men are all hunky-dory about seeing white men banging their women?
Most that I have talked to haven't had a problem with it, at least in my case.
Moreover, introgression is good for the white gene pool.
"Wow, not bitter there are you? What does it matter that some Western men like Chinese women?"
ReplyDeleteWell, as another poster pointed out, China's currently got 120 young guys for every 100 gals, which means, even if Western men left the Chinese chicks strictly alone, there's going to be one Chinese guy in every 6 who can't get a wife.
That ALONE is recipe for China getting all hot and bothered for war (war is great way to distract unattached, horny young men from their troubles, with the side benefit of reducing the excess male population).
Now, add to that Western men coming and hooking up with those (relatively, from the viewpoint of the Chinese guys) rare hotties. You think those guys are gonna LIKE it that Western men are stealing their females, when there aren't enough to go around as it is?
Do YOU want war with China? Seriously? Don't forget, now, the foolhardy offshoring of manufacturing that America has been engaged in the last 20 years, that created all that Chinese gdp growth, has INCLUDED the offshoring of manufacturing of the spare parts for the maintenance of America's war machines.
You think the cranky, horny young Chinese men, ticked off about Westerners taking their women, are going to CONTINUE to make replacement parts for U.S. bombers while they're warring with us?
And you DID bash. You snottily asked her if she's bitter, implying that she can't get a White man from having to compete against Chinese women, and that's made her bitter.
P.S., U.S. White women miscegenate less often than White men. I'll find the link if you need it.
yes, because the white gene pool is clearly inferior. Also, your plain wrong, white male/asian female is much more common in US cities than white female/black male. white men with asian females are actually the most common interracial couple in the US.
ReplyDeleteThere is this thing called communism. Not sure if you've heard of it.
ReplyDeleteYou're one of the more annoying anonymous commenters to camp out here. If you insist in sticking around to share your brilliant insights, figure out how to use a name.
China was not exactly a wonderful place before communism, and it's not a wonderful place under its current fascist regime. And that begs the question of why the Chinese constantly lurch from one totalitarian state to another. Which goes to the point I made and which flew well over your head - why can't all those intelligent Chinese devise a county in which the Yan Chens of the world can live?
Severn's point was about the colors on the map. Those colors do not indicate poverty - they indicate corruption.
ReplyDeleteChina is a very poor country indeed. It's per capita GDP puts it in the company of such places as Namiba and Angola, and well behind such powerhouses as Bulgaria and Mexico.
China is Angola, if Angola had 1.2 billion people.
I don't doubt but that China is likely to become a more prosperous nation in the future.
That isn't saying much.
Somehow all these "anonymous" posters seem to be in Yan Shen's vein, but think that their Asian ethnocentrism is hidden behind the "anonymous" label.
ReplyDeleteWhy should I be "bitter?" I'm quite happily married to a white man, Irish/Italian mixture, and he most definitely wears the pants in our family. I'm merely rather intolerant of hypocrites, including those men calling themselves white nationalists who like to have half Chinese kids. Besides, I actually get a chuckle out of their thinking they're marrying this demure little wifey, while not realizing the Asian household is dominated by the decidedly not demure Asian mother-in-law.
I feel no need to dig out official statistics to bear out my observations on Singapore and Chinese cultural traditions regarding birth. I gave birth there (as a U.S. embassy "dependent"); did you?
If having multiple wives is a staple of stable family formation, then Muslim families must be at the top of that index. The Asian men generally marry the high-achieving women and have one (possibly two) kids in Singapore. Their additional wives are younger, prettier, and generally "brainless" who want all the economic goodies - sort of in sync with the Japanese women who don't want to marry and have kids (surely you've read about them?). These observations are not based on official statistics (officially, the Singaporean government denies the existence of multiple wives) but rather on personal experience with Chinese Singaporeans of the working and upper class varieties.
Regardless of whether or not Chinese preferring cash businesses developed due to confiscatory governments, their continuation of such business practices in the U.S., added to their clan loyalties, echoes Jewish business practices far more than traditional American Anglo-European ones. Of course, the Chinese are often referred to as the "Jews" of Asia - I'm sure you're so proud.
Hoo boy ...
ReplyDeleteNo, I am not Yan Shen in disguise, and I regard him/her as being the other side of white nationalism in that he/she is just as blinkered when he/she writes from the Chinese perspective.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with White Nationalism or Chinese Nationalism until they start making noises about wanting to put me in a gulag or a gas oven because of decisions I made long ago about which human I wanted to marry. (No, I am not claiming that anyone has said that, but when you start throwing terms like miscegenation around it's not long before you are thinking in those terms.)
On the vein, I did not go out of my way to marry someone of a different race. We met at university and it just worked out for us.
As a male I of course have never had babies, but I was very much involved with the process and understand enough Chinese to be able to understand conversations about these topics and can see the practices actually employed these days.
As to whether the mother-in-law controls the household, that was not much of an issue with us since there were other siblings that she could practice her control schemes on.
Since I am neither Jewish nor Chinese I have no feelings of pride whether or not the Chinese are called the "Jews" of Asia. However, it is noteworthy that the name fails on a number of counts. They are in the same category as the Indians in Africa I suspect.
Oh, and Yan Shen is justly criticized on this blog by me and others. The claim that the Chinese are owed an enormous debt because of their contribution of labor to building the railroads is laughable. The claim that the Chinese invented gunpowder and cannons is also based on wishful thinking and a lack of intelligence.
Finally, I have met people, white, black and Chinese, who have lived their lives with dignity ...
"white men with asian females are actually the most common interracial couple in the US."
ReplyDeleteThe most common is White men / Hispanic women.
"According to Transparency International’s corruption index, corruption is “sticky.” Over time corrupt countries tend to remain corrupt, while clean countries remain clean. This makes it tempting to lean on cultural interpretations to explain the persistence or absence corruption.
ReplyDeleteHong Kong provides a compelling counterexample, showing that a change in rules can defeat a culture of corruption. Though it once had high levels of corruption, comparable to those in mainland China in the 1970s, the British government was able to effectively banish corruption. In 1977, 38% of the population thought that corruption was widespread, by 1982 only 8% did."
The Chinese are enormously nepotistic. Nepotism goes hand in hand with corruption.
No, I am not Yan Shen in disguise, and I regard him/her as being the other side of white nationalism in that he/she is just as blinkered when he/she writes from the Chinese perspective.
ReplyDeleteThat's about as far as the "other side of the coin" analogy goes for Yan Shet, though, since he refuses to acknowledge white Americans' right to have for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel, despite the fact that ethnopatriots acknowledge that right for his ethnic group in territories they've occupied for centuries.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with White Nationalism or Chinese Nationalism until they start making noises about wanting to put me in a gulag or a gas oven because of decisions I made long ago about which human I wanted to marry. (No, I am not claiming that anyone has said that, but when you start throwing terms like miscegenation around it's not long before you are thinking in those terms.)
The slippery slope fallacy is of course one of the main pillars of opposition to ethnopatriotism. Do you ever bother to stop to ask ethnopatriots any questions by way of clarification? You might get answers you didn't expect. E.g., I don't care who you marry, at least not politically. Personally, I'm disappointed that a literate, educated, presumably at least reasonably intelligent white man has bred himself out of our gene pool (we probably lose a lot more good genes to WM/YF miscegenation than we do to BM/WF miscegenation), but I'd never presume to tell you who you could and could not marry; no more than I would presume to tell a community they must or must not decide to include you in their community, or prevent your inclusion. In other words, I simply think communities have rights, and if a bunch of white folks (or black folks, or yellow folks, or anyone else) form a community, they have the right to decide who will form that community. Same goes for communities of half-yellows/half-whites who decide they only want to include folks like you, or their offspring.
Why's it always got to be about gulags and ovens with you people?
For all I know, the new Master Race of perfect superbeings will emerge from white/yellow pairings, and the hybrid race they stabilize to create. Go forth and multiply, sir. I would just like my enlightened tolerance reciprocated.
Finally, I have met people, white, black and Chinese, who have lived their lives with dignity ...
I have trouble seeing hegemonic globalist liberalism as "dignified." It robs us all of our dignity.
"Of course, there is nothing wrong with White Nationalism or Chinese Nationalism until they start making noises about wanting to put me in a gulag or a gas oven because of decisions I made long ago about which human I wanted to marry. (No, I am not claiming that anyone has said that, but when you start throwing terms like miscegenation around it's not long before you are thinking in those terms.)"
ReplyDelete"Miscegenation" is a perfectly respectable word for people who choose to race-mix. From the Latin "misce" meaning to mix, and gen, meaning birth.
To assume that I or anyone else who uses it, because it is a perfectly accurate description of the marriage of members of different races, is destined to advocate putting you in "a gas oven" just is more irrational, paranoid thinking of the kind we get from hysterical Organized Jewry in America that, despite White Americans being the ones who saved their bums in WWII, has concluded that a majority-White America is too dangerous for them and so must end, and are currently implementing their judgment by mass immigration of non-Whites.
Why are you here? This is a White advocacy site. If you want reinforcement for your bizarre delusions, ADL ought to suit you just fine.
No need to wonder why Singapore is so well off these days. It's ruled by a high IQ Chinese majority.
ReplyDeleteThe Singapore Exchange (SGX) is making a takeover bid for the Australian Securities Exchange(ASX). Here are some pertinent words about Singapore, and her "high IQ Chinese majority":
The Lee family, which runs Singapore's faux democracy, has proved one of the region's most consummate oligarchs.
The Singapore government's paws are over every big enterprise in the island state, which has been described unkindly as a shopping mall with a vote in the United Nations.
When you add up the arms and agencies with holdings and cross-holdings in the exchange, the Singapore government owns more than 30 per cent of the SGX. The exchange's annual report lists as a director Lee Hsien Yang, the second son of old Harry Lee and brother of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.
The state's sovereign investment arm, Temasek Holdings, has a big stake in the exchange, and its chief executive is Ho Ching, the Prime Minister's wife. Temasek is basically owned by the Ministry of Finance.
The regulator of the exchange is the Monetary Authority of Singapore, which doubles as the central bank. It is chaired by former prime minister Goh Chok Tong.
Immediately, there are legitimate perceptions of a conflict of interest as one government instrumentality is supposed to be having oversight of the stock exchange which, in turn, is required to deliver a healthy return to investors, including the government. It is into this carefully confected fiefdom that our securities exchange is being foisted.
One recent feature of the SGX has been the listing of Chinese companies incorporated in Bermuda with their assets held outside Singapore. While the sun shone, everyone made hay but, when things turned cloudy, the defaults piled up. Accounting standards were not what they were supposed to be and investors have been left to whistle in the wind. Evans quotes Dean Paatsch, a risk analyst, who warns of a "race to the bottom" in the rules governing listed companies in the Asian region.
Because of this laxity, Chinese companies listed in Singapore are out of favour. Paatsch has a colourful turn of phrase: "A lot of the exchanges will be prepared to drop their skirts to allow lower standards for Chinese companies to list."
We are all familiar with the shoddy human rights record of Singapore. Australia's is not perfect, either, as Lee Kwan Yew delights in pointing out. But we have yet to get to the stage of government ministers suing opposition leaders for defamation and driving them out of parliament with petitions for bankruptcy. Newspapers and magazines have also had expensive verdicts against them for criticising the government.
The Lees say they have brought these actions to protect "democracy".
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Ah, yes. The British long gone, the Chinese return to type. They're warming up their tanks to run over any protesters, no doubt, in that time honoured Chinese democratic way. Though I'm quite sure there's a lot of trust in Singapore's financial and government sector. After all, who doesn't trust their own family?
What is the SGX after, you may well ask. The answer:
ReplyDeleteThe often overlooked fact is that mountains of iron ore aren't Australia's biggest or most minable asset. That title belongs to our superannuation system.
The Financial Services Council reckons we presently have $1.4 trillion in retirement savings. The FSC reckons that savings mountain will be 5 trillion dollars by 2030, just 20 years time. Jeremy Cooper has used the projection of 6.1 trillion by 2035 – whatever, a trillion here or there, it is vast.
As every over-paid funds management wannabe knows, you only have to clip a tiny bit of such a big ticket to be wonderfully rich yourself. Owning the ASX means clipping a large whack of the multi-trillion dollar ticket for years to come as much of the money will continue to be parked in Australian equities.
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Fortunately for us, at this stage we're a wake up to the 'benign advantages' of the Yan Shen's, and this thing should get knocked on the head.
Pat Hannagan
ReplyDelete"Good to see Oz come in at 8th spot. Interesting to see Ireland come in 6 places ahead of the UK.
So much for the theory of Celtic inferiority."
Immigration. I expect if this was taken in 1920 the scores would be almost identical.
"including those men calling themselves white nationalists who like to have half Chinese kids."
ReplyDeleteLike that narcissistic weirdo "Michael Scott" who posts on every single news article at Amren.com, usually about himself and often unrelated to the topic.
Ah, yes. The British long gone, the Chinese return to type. They're warming up their tanks to run over any protesters, no doubt, in that time honoured Chinese democratic way.
ReplyDeleteSingapore wasn't democratic when the British ran it. It was only when they were leaving that democracy was promoted. That and trying to join with Malaysia proved disastrous, so they turned to non-totalitarian autocracy. If anything, Singapore's current government more closely resembles British colonial administration than modern liberal democratic regimes do.
ReplyDeleteWe are all familiar with the shoddy human rights record of Singapore. Australia's is not perfect, either, as Lee Kwan Yew delights in pointing out. But we have yet to get to the stage of government ministers suing opposition leaders for defamation and driving them out of parliament with petitions for bankruptcy. Newspapers and magazines have also had expensive verdicts against them for criticising the government.
Hmmmm, seems similar to what Obama did to make sure he got into the Senate ...
ReplyDeleteSingapore wasn't democratic when the British ran it...
Another example of British wisdom. Would you grant the vote to the nepotistic Chinese or would you ease them into the benefits of a Westminster system devoid of family ties, and regulated by impartial Justice?
Singapore's government more closely resmbles a rat's arsehole than British colonial administration.
Check out Xoriant.
ReplyDeleteThey use white people in their rolling add on their web site, but they are an Indian company ...
Not only that, but companies in China are happy to hire a whitey to front for them. Gives them face.
I've been thinking of taking up the offer.
Like that narcissistic weirdo "Michael Scott" who posts on every single news article at Amren.com, usually about himself and often unrelated to the topic.
ReplyDeleteThat dude's extremely creepy. I have no idea why they let him post at Amren. I've tried a few times to tell him he's a weirdo, and to shut his weirdo face, but the Amren mods always delete the attempts. It would be nice if he found a new scene to infest.
It OK for white women to look down their noses at white men who prefer Chinese women just as its OK for white men to look down their noses at white women who prefer black men with their bigger, um, confidence.
ReplyDeleteIndeed. I have no more problem with white women chasing black men for their slightly larger confidence and much lower IQ than I do with yellow women chasing white men for their much larger confidence and slightly lower IQ. That's their business, though it does suck when the white lost is worth a damn.
How do you feel about that, Svigor? In the US there are more cases of white women getting it on with black men than there are white men getting it on with Asian females!
Er, feel about what, the fact that yellow women desert yellow men for white men, in droves, when given the opportunity? Oh, wait, you meant your statistical observation? I dunno. I'm numerate, so I'll wait for you to actually present the numbers (the relevant one being the rates involved) before I pass judgement.
Most that I have talked to haven't had a problem with it, at least in my case.
WTF is that supposed to tell me?
Moreover, introgression is good for the white gene pool.
I know, right? That's why we're the Master Race. We know introgression's good for us. To bad the cognitively challenged Israelis, Chinese, and Indians haven't figured this out yet. Pour souls.
Pat Hannagan said...
ReplyDeleteSingapore wasn't democratic when the British ran it...
Yeah. Another example of the British running a paternalistic society overseas, eh?
Another example of British wisdom. Would you grant the vote to the nepotistic Chinese or would you ease them into the benefits of a Westminster system devoid of family ties, and regulated by impartial Justice?
You should understand that there are plenty of Chinese who are cynical about the motives of the ruling elites ...
In Hong Kong the ICAC (Independent Commission Against Corruption) is also known, to the Chinese as "I Can Accept Cash."
There is also some pretty healthy scepticism about the Communist party ... and lots of stories about how brutal they are.
Another example of British wisdom. Would you grant the vote to the nepotistic Chinese or would you ease them into the benefits of a Westminster system devoid of family ties, and regulated by impartial Justice?
ReplyDeleteWell when the British ran Singapore, they naturally ran it for British interests. So why would they grant democracy to non-Brits?
I don't deny that the Chinese are nepotistic, but I don't see why you're suggesting that nepotism was the major issue when I would think that you, as a racialist, would agree that even if the Chinese weren't nepotistic at all, they'd still be a different group. There would still be two different groups (and more if we include Indians, Malays, etc.) and group interests/conflict. Also, it is not as if only one group was nepotistic. The British may not have been nepotistic at the family level like the Chinese but they were at the wider level of the ethny and race back then.
I would take “Transparency International” numbers with a big grain of salt. It was started by a former head of the World Bank (Peter Eigen) , it is in part funded by George Soros and it does not say on its web page who else is funding it and it admits that its list is based on perception and not reality. So I am betting that the perception is that of an international banker or financier.
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I deal with a large number of Han Chinese Singaporeans on a daily basis and, believe me, they aren't as bright as the country's high average IQ suggests. Yes, they are highly adept at crunching numbers but that is about it. In truth, many of them think and behave like children. I often wonder how a country renowned for its high average IQ can be inhabited by so many puerile, tactless, narrow-minded people.
ReplyDeleteNo one pointed out that "trust" and "social trust" is a good things until it become a weakness.
ReplyDeleteThe big problem with population with high social trust is when they are infected by elites that must not be trusted. An healthy dose of distrust is useful to keep the elites in check and honest.
Painlord2k said...
ReplyDeleteNo one pointed out that "trust" and "social trust" is a good things until it become a weakness.
The big problem with population with high social trust is when they are infected by elites that must not be trusted. An healthy dose of distrust is useful to keep the elites in check and honest.
Unfortunately, when the elites went global the ability of the non-elites to call their own elites to account (cf, the French Revolution) diminished. As long as the elites hold their capital in a manner that it can be easily moved from country to country and they can flee if they go too far, then the non-elites have little ability to punish the elites.